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Auxillary Electrical Setup - 9/18/2005 9:21:59 PM

mach9

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It was mentioned in another thread that I should move my information to this forum so that the rest of you can share in my project. My goal was to add hardwired electrical connections for my radar detector, and in the near future gps. So with this information and my basic electrical knowledge I set out on my task of wiring up a setup that is not only safe (fused) but is isolated from my bikes power for safety (nothing like sitting on the side of the road cause of a short from an accessory). This project is incomplete but will be updated as I go. All that is left is to mount a fuse block, however, I havent found one I like. And to mount the plugs for the accessories to plug in to. I havent found plugs I like either. I was going to use cigarette lighter sockets but I want a smaller solution. For those of you that want to see my wiring please take a look here: http://bcphotos.homedns.org/photos/thumbnails.php?album=32 I have created a schematic diagram of the relay connections and will add that to my pictures tonight. If anyone has information on a good fuse block and / or power connectors please share. Im trying to keep this cheap cause money is scarce at the moment. Feel free to ask questions.

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Obviously your choice of fuses depends on your block and potential load. Another concern is output of your alternator compared to current draw on your electrical system. Killing your battery while the engine is RUNNING would really suck and be a bit embarassing as well.

All accessory ground wires meet here.

Relay is zip tied to another rubber mounted relay to isolate vibration, it seemed like a easy and good mounting solution

Wire route from the license plate light splice, zip tied to stock harness wiring, then plugged into the relay with a spade connector....I would like a nice fitting plug for the relay...but I didn't have one at the time.....future upgrades ;)

The grey box and translucent connectors are a home made turn signal integrator. If anyones interested email me and I'll make a write up for it with pictures. Theres plenty of how-tos on the web though.

That connector splices the relay switching to the plate light, which causes the relay to operate on and off with the ignition, so you don't kill your battery if you forget an accessory on.

Liquid Tape...excellent stuff.

I thought about trying to utilize the empty slots in the stock box....but really have no need now.

Fuse block for all fused positive accessory connections, and main fuse connecting fuse block to battery. The second fuse block is for accessories you don't want switched off whe

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RE: Auxillary Electrical Setup - 9/21/2005 2:30:20 AM

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Is any of this information useful to anyone?...lots of views and not a single comment....if its not helpful I wont waste my time =)

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RE: Auxillary Electrical Setup - 9/25/2005 8:20:12 PM

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New member...What mach9 was saying was...If it isn't in laymans terms, the rest of us can't understand it. I want to rig a radar detector and electrical vest/chaps to something other than the direct battery aproach. Tell us non-electrician types how to do it. I have been waiting for a good explaination of "how to" in this area.

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RE: Auxillary Electrical Setup - 9/25/2005 9:31:05 PM

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mach9 keep up the good work, am new here but that is proving to be a good resource... am actually using the set up to run som LED lighting...but am thinking of also running a phone charger off of it aswell.... post some more picks when you get it closer to finished..peace

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RE: Auxillary Electrical Setup - 10/23/2005 4:09:03 PM

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UPDATE:

Parts List:
Radio Shack
Barrier Strip $2.49 Model: 274-670
Jumper Strip $1.99 Model: 274-650
Inline fuse holder x2 $2.59 ea. Catalog #: 270-1237

Auto Parts Store
Fuse Blocks $10.99 ea. Part: BP/15600-06-20
Relay $3.99
Wire - Used wire I had around already

I could go into detail about how everything is wired, however, as they say "a picture is worth a thousand words". Check out the pictures at http://bcphotos.homedns.org/photos/thumbnails.php?album=32 I have a couple of powerlet sockets on order, ill update the pictures when they are installed. Broke down and bought them based on other reviews.

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RE: Auxillary Electrical Setup - 9/24/2006 10:42:17 PM

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Looks Great! Good job on the wiring. I'm a wiring freak too :)

I just got an F4i, and I know I'm going to end up referring to this in the future when I start wiring in some "extras"... however radar detectors are illegal in my state (VA) and I don't even have GPS in my car... I'm not sure what other accessories I could use, I haven't even started using a radio on the commute to work. I do plan on making a relay harness for my HIDs once I buy the parts...

But definetly a good job, very helpful!

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RE: Auxillary Electrical Setup - 11/28/2006 7:58:44 PM

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Ok this project came to a grinding halt at the beginning of this year. My bike was stolen in the early days of February. Well as of 11/23/06 it was recovered. Definately ALOT worse for wear. I haven't started it up, but barring needing a complete set of plastics, new tank, new radiator, and stator cover it looks better than I thought it would. Heck at this point I had written it off as gone for good.

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RE: Auxillary Electrical Setup - 11/28/2006 8:09:14 PM

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Good luck with putting the bike back together... that really sucks.

I only just found this thread, and I'm glad I did.

As for aux power. I run a few accessories and am finding this thread interesting. For my heated vest I've routed the power source so it tucks under the seat. I'm in the process of sourcing a voltometer I can flush mount on the dash... On my previous bikes I was able to cut a hole in the dash and flush mount one. Like you finding the right plug type is tricky... for aux vests I've used a two-pronged trailer plug.

One mod I'm considering just for the wiring point of view is a rear facing camera. Hard wired and secured somehow to the bike.

I do want to see pics, but I think your site needs a password now. I'll check your gallery out after this post.

Cheers,
woot.

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RE: Auxillary Electrical Setup - 12/6/2006 11:33:45 PM

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Hey Woot. I don't know how you keep up with this forum and XJBikes at the same time.

As for the wiring stuff: I see that you found a fuse block. I got a 4 fuse block from Schuck's for about $5 last year, just FYI

I tried wiring a cigarette lighter onto my last bike, but I didn't like how huge it was, so I cut it off and crimped a smaller general use 2-prong plug onto the wire. I cut the cigarette plug off of my phone charger, and crimped the complimentary plug on. I plugged it into my bike, and promptly destroyed the cell phone battery. It seems that inside of the plug end of the phone charger, there are resistors and capacitors and what not to modify the current for the cell phone.

Yes, I'm an idiot. Just a heads up in case you were thinking about doing the same thing.

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RE: Auxillary Electrical Setup - 1/19/2007 4:31:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: HurricaneForce

Hey Woot. I don't know how you keep up with this forum and XJBikes at the same time.

As for the wiring stuff: I see that you found a fuse block. I got a 4 fuse block from Schuck's for about $5 last year, just FYI

I tried wiring a cigarette lighter onto my last bike, but I didn't like how huge it was, so I cut it off and crimped a smaller general use 2-prong plug onto the wire. I cut the cigarette plug off of my phone charger, and crimped the complimentary plug on. I plugged it into my bike, and promptly destroyed the cell phone battery. It seems that inside of the plug end of the phone charger, there are resistors and capacitors and what not to modify the current for the cell phone. Yes, I'm an idiot. Just a heads up in case you were thinking about doing the same thing.

omg that is too funny. i cant balive u did that.

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RE: Auxillary Electrical Setup - 3/3/2007 6:53:21 PM

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I wasn't really happy with the fuse blocks I have...West Marine has some really nice units, but they were expensive. I had the same problems with the size of the cigarrate connectors....i would like some nice plugs that will sit flush with their mount...likely gonna be the trim panels over the air ducts. Anyhow, i'm still working on putting the bike back together, we'll see how that goes. I did get an email about a dead link to my photos.....I moved them, never thought to update the post..but thats taken care of.

Cheers

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RE: Auxillary Electrical Setup - 3/4/2007 11:52:56 PM

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so far it looks like a good set up but don't you think that 30 amps is too much for a radar detector? what guage wiring are you using for a 30 amp fuse? i normally use 12 guage wiring for a 20 amp fuse. i hope you're not skimping on your wiring or your fuse might be useless, and possibly just set your bike on fire from the source wire melting. that would be tragic. your radar dectector itself should state what the necessary current draw is. it should be listed on the radar detector itself or in the owner's manual. what else are you loading down on that relay? i see you've gone with two different aftermarket fuse blocks. one wired hot and the other switched. you could use the key switch to pull a high current relay to provide a current path for your second fuse block. that would be easier.

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RE: Auxillary Electrical Setup - 3/11/2007 7:49:03 PM

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Uhhhh 30amps for the radar detector? Where the heck did you get that insane idea. The 30amp fuse is a primary fuse for the fuse block...the block itself will house the individual circuit fuses....did you even look at the full post before you came up with that idea? One of us is confused...and if its me, please clarify.

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RE: Auxillary Electrical Setup - 4/15/2007 9:57:42 AM

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Bump for an excellent write up and I embedded the pictures in the original post. Hope you don't mind.

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