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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 3/27/2007 11:23:04 PM

alekinci

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Im more of a stoppie person. Red light stoppies get the most attention, of course!
Now, stoppies take some time to learn and are more scary than wheelies in my opinion.

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 3/28/2007 12:01:57 AM

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steering damper steering damper steering damper steering damper steering damper steering damper steering damper sigh its not just your skin your risking think of your babys she wont let you ride her if you beat her up lol

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 3/28/2007 2:34:41 AM

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stand up and do it... i can do stand ups in 3rd @ 100mph with ease though the cops dont like it....personally i like 2nd gear the best the bike is the most stable between 60-85mph...1st is to touchy for me though i can ride them in first i like 2nd. Just go bout 60-65 in 2nd stand up and pre-load it a lil bit and slip the clutch and up up and away...but if i were u dont learn them lol cause they are to fun and if u get good ur gunna get busted eventually like me and the fine sucks...lol just smokem in the corners that's where the real skill is!!

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 3/28/2007 11:48:43 PM

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I think if you can't chop the throttle and then hit it in first you might want to stop trying before you get hurt. I had my bike less than a month and could do that easily. Now, I just clutch it up in first but I am having problems in second. I even went down one tooth in the front. I tried standing up and backing my butt up all the way over the passenger seat and it came up nicely in second but it felt really weird so I haven't mastered it yet.

Oh, and does anyone else have difficulty balancing a wheelie in first with full tire pressure? I can't keep it up longer than 5 or 6 seconds.

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 7/25/2007 8:27:32 PM

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If you got time, remove all fairings, and purchase yourself proper body gear PLUS a decent CAGE, and lower the air pressure from your rear tire.

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 7/26/2007 7:07:17 PM

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I'd learned to power it up first, and work your way up from there. It's all in the shift of momentum (spelling ?). When you start in first open it up to about 8,000 or 9,000, but you want the weight shifted to the rear pretty good and then cut the throttle and when your bike slows and your front end drops open it up pretty good. Work your way up from there, higher then higher. Once you get the hang of this learn to slip the clutch in second. It took me about a week to learn to power it up in first.

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 7/26/2007 11:23:54 PM

JimmieDon

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It's wierd to see how hard it is to power wheelie a 600. I have an 06 Cbr 1000 and weigh a fat ass 240. I slide back on the seat at 5k rpm and yank the throttle good and let off then roll on and bring the wheelies up easy. I learned this technique on the crf 450 in my profile picture. I would take it on the road in front of my house... Yes it's not street legal and i'm on the street. I would go in third gear slide back and slam it popping it up at about 40mph. I can ride wheelies on my 450 about 1/2 mile this way. I do this on my 1000 also but im only about 1/4 mile wheelie. I take it high almost to balance point, just a smidge below but I can ride them about 1/4 mile. I want to start clutch wheelies and I do them on my wifes Xt 225 and Raptor 350 but on bigger bikes it just scares me for some reason.

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 7/27/2007 7:10:38 AM

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I'm not even going to read the other posts.

90% of people problems with wheelies are balls. You either have them or you have to develop them. It's like skiing - once you know you can turn and stop when you/where you want, you go faster and faster. Once you know your rear brake will set you down (at the expense of fork seals), you will be less worried about bringing it up.

The major problem to riding wheelies is the oh shit factor once the wheel comes up. Again, grow your balls. Almost everyone backs off the throttle once they get the front up - then it comes right back down. You gotta hit that throttle again once the wheel is up to ride it out.

Just keep clutching it up and lcutching it up and clutching it up. Pretty soon you'll feel comfortable about the front wheel coming up then you can work on giving it throttle once it is up. Then you'll notice you can not only pop a wheelie, but ride one for 10 or 15 feet. Then 20 feet. Then 30 feet. Then 40 feet. Then it gets difficult all over again when you start trying to add lots of distance. You'll get frustrated all over again.

Just take your time. You're not going toad something on the forum and then magically go out and ride a wheelie. Get used to it coming up. Then get used to giving it throttle once it's up. Once you have no fear of giving it throttle once it's up you can actually start to feel what it means to balance the bike and ride the wheelie.

COVER THE REAR BRAKE!

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 7/28/2007 3:18:08 PM

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when you try to do a power wheelie do it at around 6k rpms, mine comes up very fast at 6-6.5k

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 7/30/2007 8:18:08 AM

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I always thought it was hard....but like a few have mentioned above: IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW AGGRESSIVE YOU ARE ABOUT WANTING TO GET UP!! (AKA how big your balls are!!) Seriously man, you just have to RIP the throttle on a power up (I do anyway) to get it up significantly. I let it roll in first to about 15 MPH then snap the throttle half open and release immediately, when the bike revs back down and the front is bouncing back up I rip it open 3/4 WOT!! Learn this method first so you have a good feeling of what it's like to be in the one-wheel position.

Once you're nice and comfy doing it that way (and it probably won't be too smooth either), then you can dump the clutch in first to get it up. The first time I did it this way, I thought how much easier it was and it seemed so much smoother than ripping the throttle (powering up) in first. I'm still really amateur about dumping the clutch to get it up, but it goes a lot higher and easier. Sometimes I try and can't get it up and then realize that I'm pussing out.

Good luck, be safe, wear full gear, do it where cops won't, repeat, won't be around and start in small increments at lower REV's before just ripping the throttle to WOT and build your way up. Just get comfortable with the weight shifting and the immediate power transfer from the motor to the driveline when you're dumping the clutch. There's no rush to do it right the first time you try.

Once you learn, you can stop telling your friends "I don't wheelie, riding alone is dangerous enough!"

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 8/5/2007 8:41:02 PM

Kikn

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I would love to be able to do wheelies.

It'll probably be another 5years before I am even comfortable to even think about trying 1.

I just rode my 07 600rr for the first time on Aug 02, 07. Bike died on my 50+ time. Front tires lifted up on my 2-3x. Scared the shit outta me when the bike just lurched and jumped and sprinted .. almost without me.

That first gear is scary :) Even a newb can pull a wheelie sometimes. Heh yea not no wheelie but lift up the fron wheel on 1st gear.

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 8/6/2007 7:30:07 AM

2QK4U2C

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this should be in stunters corner thread. CLUTCH IT UP DON'T POWER WHEELIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 9/3/2007 12:07:31 AM

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I have an 07 Honda CBR 600RR and this is what works for me. I only do power controlled wheelies, I dont trust feathering the clutch that much. I rev at 7000 RPM in 1st gear, cut off the throttle totally, go 100% back on, and as I go 100% back on I pull back on the bars and slam my butt back towards the back of the seat. I find stand up cat-walks easier. I do the same, ( Rev at 7000) I just stand up and as soon as I go to apply the 100% throttle back on I just jump a little on the pegs and it comes up as easy as that! Hope this helps! Good luck! I'm just gonna warn you... once you learn how to get it on 1 wheel, it's tough to keep it on 2 haha

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 9/3/2007 9:50:26 AM

wellarmedCr@cker

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quote:

ORIGINAL: wellarmedCr@cker

I'd learned to power it up first, and work your way up from there. It's all in the shift of momentum (spelling ?). When you start in first open it up to about 8,000 or 9,000, but you want the weight shifted to the rear pretty good and then cut the throttle and when your bike slows and your front end drops open it up pretty good. Work your way up from there, higher then higher. Once you get the hang of this learn to slip the clutch in second. It took me about a week to learn to power it up in first.

I'm going to change my qoute from ealier. I've been slipping it a little while now and thats deffinatley to way to go. I've never had any problems powering it up, it just seemed to be all or nothing and not very predictable. Slipping is way more predictable and once you've mastered first, move on from there.

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RE: Wheelies, why do I still struggle... - 9/3/2007 9:52:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: meanstrk

PLEASE though, no wheelies in traffic! I play out on the back roads!

This is the best advice I've read in days, thanks!!!

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