RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/28/2007 8:19:59 PM
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D2VW14_20
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Haha, you admitted you are new to the bike world, so apparently you should have had someone look over the bike before you bought it thank new something about them. Is it carburated? If so, you may need to clean them and get them synced. Also, it could be connections somewhere. But your right, none of us know what we are talking about. But then again, we havent had a problem and all of our stuff is running (for the most part). You need to take it to someone that knows what they are doing. I guarentee that you take it to a dealer service department, and it will be fixed. And you being on a 250 for 2 days in a class doesnt teach you everything that there is to know or let you feel the ability of it. So you dont know jack after 2 days of being on one.
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/28/2007 9:02:53 PM
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catamayo85
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you really cant be mad at all of us for the advice that we're giving, for the most part, buying a used bike for your first bike IS THE CORRECT CHOICE. i bought my bike used, (98 cbr 600 with 8k miles on it) and it gave me problems too after a while, but nothing the people on this forum couldnt help me fix. instead of just basically honda bashing, you should've maybe put it into a more constructive post (not trying to sound like a jerk, it just seemed like you were writing while you were steaming, and it may have come off as sounding rude)
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/28/2007 9:04:18 PM
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lee1rbc
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ORIGINAL: dflat57
You can second, third, fourth, fifth it for all I care. I did not point out any one person's advice. I didn't refer to a specific person or thread. If you feel guilty its up to you. Yes I am upset about having to take my bike to a dealer just after I bought it. With all the websites telling new riders its best to buy used, its my right to share my bad experiences wtih another new rider looking for the same advice I was looking for a short time ago. I don't care who attacks me, I'm here to let any new rider thinking that they should 100% get a used bike is false. If I had a new bike I would be riding happy today istead of worrying about how much the dealer is going to get me for and how well my bike will be handled my the tow guy that is charging me hundred and change to tow my bike to the dealer. New bike much less worries. I'd rather my only worry to be keep the bike from falling. I WORRY ABOUT THAT ANYWAY!!!!!
Not to start a fight but in part I agree with You. My first bike was a brand new 600 Katana. Bike never gave me a problem and I never dropped it.
With that said, I did pay $6,200 for the bike and sold it 1 year later for $4,400 (with chrome full exhaust, stage 1 jet kit. 6K miles) A loss of almost $2,000 dollars. When my wife started riding we decided to buy a used bike. A 94 CBR F2 for $2,600 very clean 12,000 miles. I have spent around $400 to get the bike running right, and about 10hrs of my labor. It has been more of a hassle but also more affordable, and if she doesn't want to ride anymore I can sell the bike easy for $2,500 in a year from now. Yes a new bike is less of a hassle most of the time, but also most of the time alot more expensive.
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/29/2007 1:44:15 AM
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yardstickninja
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You wouldn't teach a 16-year old how to drive in a Ferrari
I totally agree with you here, and no the advice is not in anyway bad. There is a BIG difference between a 250cc and a 600cc, espeically a new 600, because if you think your old 600 could box with an F4.....you are in a world of hurt. And should you dump your bike due to inexperiance, you would probably rather it be something old than some brand new bike. And seriously, my bike is pushing 34k miles, if the bike is taken care of, it shows it, and also vice versa, you just had a little bad luck, don't blame it on good advice.
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/29/2007 2:38:27 AM
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CBR1988
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Hey:
Ist how much did you pay for this bike that no longer runs right? Alot of times you get what you pay for.
If you feel you paid to much for a bike that does not run, the buyers remorse, not the advice is what is getting
you down. Also not every used bike is a piece of crap, I am trying to sell one of my Bikes it has 14,000 miles
on it and the person who gets it will probally get another 14,000 miles out of it, or more if they take care or it.
It runs great and I ride it everyday, not abuse it everyday, and feel whomever gets it, is getting an deal on a
very reliable bike. But not all sellers are looking out for the new owners. I have sold ten bikes in the last 6 yrs
everyone I still keep in touch with, and all are very happy they purchased the bike. I wish you and your seller
could have enjoyed the same relationship. Also how did you buy the bike, Local private sale, on ebay, or dealer?
caveat emptor says it all. The advice was not bad but the execution of the purchase was.
Maybe you should have bought my bike and you could have been riding.
But a 1000cc bike for a nube is not advice I would normally give, do to the size and weight, unless your a real
big lad (6' plus, 250lbs plus) then you may need a bigger bike just to be comfortable on, as most new 600s
don't fit to well.
Dub
< Message edited by CBR1988 -- 3/29/2007 7:55:37 AM >
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/29/2007 3:01:00 AM
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dflat57
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ORIGINAL: D2MEclipseGT_600RR
Haha, you admitted you are new to the bike world, so apparently you should have had someone look over the bike before you bought it thank new something about them. Is it carburated? If so, you may need to clean them and get them synced. Also, it could be connections somewhere. But your right, none of us know what we are talking about. But then again, we havent had a problem and all of our stuff is running (for the most part). You need to take it to someone that knows what they are doing. I guarentee that you take it to a dealer service department, and it will be fixed. And you being on a 250 for 2 days in a class doesnt teach you everything that there is to know or let you feel the ability of it. So you dont know jack after 2 days of being on one.
Stop assuming. If you really need me to prove it to you I can scan my paperwork with the school on it, how much I paid for each lesson and how much time I've had on the bike. They keep a log and they give their students a mini log to keep track of all of their progress. I am a short lesson away from my road test. Its still night and day from riding my CBR. Its not bad for a newbie to have one feel of a 250, but after that he or she should be riding that bike they want to be familar with.
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/29/2007 3:07:58 AM
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dflat57
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ORIGINAL: yardstickninja
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ORIGINAL: Blue Fox
You wouldn't teach a 16-year old how to drive in a Ferrari
I totally agree with you here, and no the advice is not in anyway bad. There is a BIG difference between a 250cc and a 600cc, espeically a new 600, because if you think your old 600 could box with an F4.....you are in a world of hurt. And should you dump your bike due to inexperiance, you would probably rather it be something old than some brand new bike. And seriously, my bike is pushing 34k miles, if the bike is taken care of, it shows it, and also vice versa, you just had a little bad luck, don't blame it on good advice.
That Ferrari reference was dumb. A 2007 Honda CBR is not the Ferrari of the motorcycle world. I dare you to tell me that it is. So, you still totally agree with that way off comment??
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/29/2007 3:31:02 AM
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EPNF4i
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Yer drunk
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/29/2007 3:38:27 AM
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catamayo85
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ORIGINAL: dflat57
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ORIGINAL: yardstickninja
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ORIGINAL: Blue Fox
You wouldn't teach a 16-year old how to drive in a Ferrari
I totally agree with you here, and no the advice is not in anyway bad. There is a BIG difference between a 250cc and a 600cc, espeically a new 600, because if you think your old 600 could box with an F4.....you are in a world of hurt. And should you dump your bike due to inexperiance, you would probably rather it be something old than some brand new bike. And seriously, my bike is pushing 34k miles, if the bike is taken care of, it shows it, and also vice versa, you just had a little bad luck, don't blame it on good advice.
That Ferrari reference was dumb. A 2007 Honda CBR is not the Ferrari of the motorcycle world. I dare you to tell me that it is. So, you still totally agree with that way off comment??
im thinking he means 600cc=ferrari and 250=civic? NOT any honda cbr =ferrari
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/29/2007 3:41:04 AM
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EPNF4i
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He's drunk
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/29/2007 3:41:23 AM
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rippn
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I've been good... any noobs out there... watch this thread, this is how delusional, a person that is farely unteachable ,can be. It will be a shame to hear about his "painfull learning curve" as he proceeds, w/ this mind set. Some people sound as if motorcyling is like buying a new cd, just cut the wrapper and go, taking no responsibility for anything involved. I say honestly, sell the bike and pick out another less involved sport, hobby, thrill... whatever "it" was to start w/... and stay alive longer... come back when you've matured... This sport (love, to me) will kill you dead or make a veg outta you, so fast, w/o asking first.
The advice about buying used, and smaller cc... is valid... listen to the wisdom of those that have succesfully preceded... this guy is in NO position to give advice...experience, trackrecord, content, teachability, validity, life expectancy..."as is" I hope the best for him.He will have no one to blame... but himself.
Free and clean, Ripp'n
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/29/2007 3:45:47 AM
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EPNF4i
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He's just drunk
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/29/2007 3:48:52 AM
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catamayo85
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ORIGINAL: rippn
I've been good... any noobs out there... watch this thread, this is how delusional, a person that is farely unteachable ,can be. It will be a shame to hear about his "painfull learning curve" as he proceeds, w/ this mind set. Some people sound as if motorcyling is like buying a new cd, just cut the wrapper and go, taking no responsibility for anything involved. I say honestly, sell the bike and pick out another less involved sport, hobby, thrill... whatever "it" was to start w/... and stay alive longer... come back when you've matured... This sport (love, to me) will kill you dead or make a veg outta you, so fast, w/o asking first.
The advice about buying used, and smaller cc... is valid... listen to the wisdom of those that have succesfully preceded... this guy is in NO position to give advice...experience, trackrecord, content, teachability, validity, life expectancy..."as is" I hope the best for him.He will have no one to blame... but himself.
Free and clean, Ripp'n
amen
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/29/2007 5:13:01 AM
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FFCBRf4i
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Please don't blame things on other people. You, sir, are an adult; as a matter of fact, we all are. You are completely free to choose what you want to do. We make choices and have to live with them. Nobody makes you do anything; you choose to do it. Nobody made you buy that specific bike; you chose to buy it. Advice is simply an opinion offered as a guide. You can take it for what it is, and you can either choose to follow it or to not. Nobody forced you to adhere to the advice given. Your situation was unfortunate and I'm sorry your bike broke.
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RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders - 3/29/2007 5:43:51 AM
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Blue Fox
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Wow. This blew up quick. Read this carefully...........I'll sum it up real good...........
You are all pissed off. We get that, you're mad. You are mad at the fact that you took the advice from more experienced riders, that a new rider will be better off buying a used bike, and got burned. It broke, you're mad, and instead of taking it like a man, you blame other people for your mistake. No, you aren't directly saying that, but that's how it's coming off in your posts.
I have a question for you though......Would you be ranting and all pissed off if your used bike was running fine? I think not. I also think that if you got a great deal on a used bike and it ran great, you too would be on here advising newer riders to purchase used.
Dude, you're mad (and drunk according to EPNF4i), don't go out blaming other's for your mistake.
We give out friendly advice (advice as in a "suggestion".) We DIDN'T hold a gun to your head and force you to buy a used bike. That was YOUR decision and YOURS alone.....deal with it and move on.
............and jumping from a 250 to a 600 is kind of like getting out of your Civic and getting into a Ferrari. So I wouldn't consider my analogy about the 16-year old and the Ferrari as "dumb"............more on the line of genius or super-freaking-awesome-genius.
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