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dflat57 -> I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 5:26:18 PM)

Ive read it here and on MANY other motorcycle forums.  Experienced riders always tell first time riders to start off on a small used bike.  I think that advice sucks.  I am new to riding and bikes so I took the advice of many and learned from a 250cc and then bought a used cbr.  Worst mistake yet.  Im not used to the major difference in stepping up no matter how many lessons ive had.  And to make matters worse my bike wont even run.

I think riders who want to start off on 600cc should do just that and not buy any used anything.  Ive been patient and searched the post for days.  I went out and changed my oil, battery, sparkplugs (HARD AS HELL TO DO!!!!!!)  and after all of that, after all the time and money wasted I now have to have my bike towed to a repair shop.   If I had a brand new bike I would be riding now getting used to whatever bike I wanted to buy.  Instead of being online tell new riders to do whatever your heart tells you when it come to your first bike.  Dont listen to much to others.  You can check, check, check and check a used bike over and over for as many times as you want.  The mileage can be low as hell. (mine is 4000!!!!!)  Its still is a used bike.  New riders that dont know much about bike should be out riding getting in all the road time they can and enjoying the experience.  I AM DOING NIETHER!!!!!  And the icing on the cake will be the big bill from the dealer.  Dont make the same mistake I did.

If I could do it all again...............

  
Blue Fox -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 5:43:11 PM)

Why did you buy a used bike that wasn't running to being with?

This has nothing to do with our "advice". I just think you're a little peeved about getting a used bike that doesn't work. (which happens to everyone). They'll be times where you buy a used one with years of trouble-free riding. And then there are others with major problems. You got the latter of the two.

Our advice is pretty much spot on. You wouldn't teach a 16-year old how to drive in a Ferrari, same goes for biking.

"You have to learn how to crawl before you can run."

Kewl Breeze -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 5:55:07 PM)

yeah man, your post doesn't make any sense on 2 fronts:
1) 90% of your post has nothing to do with cc size .. just mechanical problems (which could be applied to any bike)
2) You say you're a new rider yet talk about not being used to stepping up (which btw an increase in cc is not) and advice on what bike to buy to other newbies.

Granted you may still have that opinion later as you become more experienced but how about waiting for that before making rash decisions?
I know your upset about your bike problems but take it easy, fix/sell the bike and try not to apply your one bad experience with one bad bike to what the best bike for a noob is ... g'luck w/the bike mang

pinit1 -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 6:00:22 PM)

I think you were a bit unlucky with your used buy--Hondas are the most reliable motorcycles made,ive got a cbr 6oo f4i 02 its never missed a beat ever--have to agree with fox about running before you can walk
p.s hope you get your bike running soon--im sure you'll soon realise it was a worthwhile purchase

pitsvtec -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 6:03:16 PM)

I started small and moved up....if you can ride a 250 you can ride anything....

doncollins -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 6:07:33 PM)

Your point has been made.  This is a double edge sword as discussions go.  You buy a new bike and make a few simple mistakes and have a totaled bike in the garage you're making payments on for the next few years.  You buy a used one and end up having a money pit.  There's no sure thing here. 

Sorry for your bad luck and I hope you're on the streets soon, sounds liek you need to work out some agresions.

lee1rbc -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 6:29:27 PM)

Sorry to hear that Your bike is giving You problems, I can feel Your pain. I will say that  if someone asked me what bike they should buy to start riding on and they could afford a new bike ($7,000 dollars) I would tell them to get a SV650S or Ninja 650R just enough power to scare You but probebly not kill You. lol 

You said Your not used to the power difference but at least the 250 taught You how to counter steer, and brake. Was the 250 used?

As for buying a used bike? $3,500 + $1,000 in repaires vs. $8,000 for a new bike. Plus alot of people drop there bike when they start.

dflat57 -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 6:32:31 PM)

The bike was running fine when I bought it .  Thats why I said you can check and check again it doesn't matter with getting someone's second hand trash.  I have many honda vehicles i've learned to wrench on, so know when a bike sounds decent.  I've even rode the bike for a few days and it rode fine.  but again other peoples hand me down is always a ticking time bomb.  I stand by what I said.  I would be happier if I didn't take wack advice and bought the bike I wanted.  Now I gotta dig in my pockets again and sit out great riding weather.  (As if NYC has many months to ride anyway)

dflat57 -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 6:36:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lee1rbc

Sorry to hear that Your bike is giving You problems, I can feel Your pain. I will say that  if someone asked me what bike they should buy to start riding on and they could afford a new bike ($7,000 dollars) I would tell them to get a SV650S or Ninja 650R just enough power to scare You but probebly not kill You. lol 

You said Your not used to the power difference but at least the 250 taught You how to counter steer, and brake. Was the 250 used?

As for buying a used bike? $3,500 + $1,000 in repaires vs. $8,000 for a new bike. Plus alot of people drop there bike when they start.



The 250 wasn't mine.  I took class on the bike.

I haven't felt one time while on my bike like it will hit the ground. (before it died)

OldFatGuy -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 6:47:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dflat57

The bike was running fine when I bought it .  Thats why I said you can check and check again it doesn't matter with getting someone's second hand trash.



Just an off the wall question...  you sure there is gas in the tank, kill switch is in the run position, and so on and so forth?  I've done dumber things.

dflat57 -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 7:18:09 PM)



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Just an off the wall question...  you sure there is gas in the tank, kill switch is in the run position, and so on and so forth?  I've done dumber things.
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its nothing small.  i've gone over the bike a dozen times, read and re-read post and comment from people here who have had similar problems.  the bike starts fine (it should after new oil change, new plugs, new battery) it won't stay running in the low rmps after i've let the bike warm up.

TheX -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 7:23:01 PM)

Lord, here we go again.

Our advice is outstanding, your implementation is what's wrong. The step from the 250 to a 600 should be a fairly smooth one, unless you were just a squid on the 250. The fact that the 600 doesn't run is a reflection on your inability to research a purchase properly, and your lack of desire to let a professional fix it.

Please take responsibility for your own actions, and quit blaming *us* for your own short-comings.

kodiak1122 -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 7:58:01 PM)

^^ I second that.

catamayo85 -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 8:07:26 PM)

^^ 3rd

dflat57 -> RE: I 100% disagree with a popular advice for new riders (3/28/2007 8:14:00 PM)

You can second, third, fourth, fifth it for all I care.  I did not point out any one person's advice.  I didn't refer to a specific person or thread.  If you feel guilty its up to you.  Yes I am upset about having to take my bike to a dealer just after I bought it.  With all the websites telling new riders its best to buy used, its my right to share my bad experiences wtih another new rider looking for the same advice I was looking for a short time ago.  I don't care who attacks me, I'm here to let any new rider thinking that they should 100% get a used bike is false.  If I had a new bike I would be riding happy today istead of worrying about how much the dealer is going to get me for and how well my bike will be handled my the tow guy that is charging me hundred and change to tow my bike to the dealer.  New bike much less worries.  I'd rather my only worry to be keep the bike from falling.  I WORRY ABOUT THAT ANYWAY!!!!!

  

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