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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/14/2007 11:18:06 AM   
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Look up entrapment, fool.

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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/14/2007 5:45:38 PM   
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This one should get the hose puller, er.... fire eaters, er... hero's all fired up.
SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL POLICE
Because unlike your fire department, we do more than just make nudey calenders on the tax payers dime.

SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL POLICE
Because at any given time, there are 60% more firefighters paid to sleep & BBQ than POLICE paid to patrol.

Ouch!!!

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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/14/2007 9:56:06 PM   
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Seems like this topic has gone sour and turned into an argument over cops and firefighters... Cant they both be heroes!? They both risk their own lives to save others! Now, back to the topic of ticketing an quotas. I have been told by many cops there is not a quota to meet. An on the other hand I have been told by other cops that there is! WTF? Do they not even know what that hell is going on there? I don't really care, I do the limit while there are people present. But what is really starting to piss me the F(#$ off is the homo traffic enforcing narcs! These are the guys/gals that drive around in old ass Brettas, Cherokees, Darangos, Tarus you name it. They are completely unmarked and call in for another marked car to pull you over. What kinda chicken S$%# maneuver is that!? I understand that it is not entrapment, but that is pretty damn close. I guess it works though... Keeping our streets safe from those who danger their lives and the lives of others...  

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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/15/2007 12:39:04 AM   
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i personally have never had a problem with paying up.  i know the speed limit is to never, under any circumstances be exceeded.  i know that the speed limit on I-10 is 70mh.  i know that if i DO exceed the limit, that i am breaking the law, and that i will be cited, regardless of my personal opinion on the particular law.  except for some situations, speeding is a choice, you know what you are doing is illegal, so why raise a fuss when you get a ticked for doing something that you already knew was wrong?

it may not be dangerous in the least to do 80 in a 70 on I-10, but disregard the safety, any jackass can tell if the number on the big sign is bigger or smaller than the number on their speedo.  drive the speed limit (not 5 over, not 1 over)  and you wont get anymore speeding tickets.

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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/15/2007 1:14:06 AM   
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I hate people that hate cops.......plain and simple. They're risking their asses for a less than desirable wage considering the situations they get thrown into. Thus, I have an ENORMOUS respect for cops.

For all the people that hate traffic tickets............obey the damn traffic laws. Quota's or not, if you aren't breaking the law, you won't get a ticket.

It's what you would call "common sense". Something a LOT of people have a lack of these days.

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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/15/2007 1:31:57 AM   
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if they hated danger they wouldn't be cops.


Cops love the Power of a badge and gun. If they were fearless and selfless they'd be Firefighters.

My point is stop paying the po-po to bust your balls, drive slow. that'll f**k them up. Thay'll have to start ticketing people that drive with their heads up their asses because they are too busy talking on the cell phone to signal lane changes.


I wish that worked. down here in florida they harrass us no matter what.Here is a perfect example.Wednesday night is a bike night at qs&l . All bikes welcome.One of the biggest bike spots in florida.Average 3-4k bikes on a regular wed night. This past wednesday the cops couldn't bust the bikers for doing stupid shit so they figures a better way to harrass us. They blocked the facking entrance to qs&l and ticketed 1730 people.I repeat 1730 people for anything and everything.No probable cause or anything.You pull in and 2 cops fully inspect your bike and start writing tickets.

Right now the owners of qs&l have contacted a lawyer and might be filing a class action suit since this all happened on private propety.

oh and for who is a real hero.firefighters hands down.They don't go around harrassing people or judging people in their work.They save lives period

some cops are heroes and some are pricks with a badge

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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/15/2007 10:47:30 AM   
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quote:

I wish that worked. down here in florida they harrass us no matter what.


I am in Florida too, Florida cops are the worst.  Must be the heat.

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I hate people that hate cops.......plain and simple. They're risking their asses for a less than desirable wage considering the situations they get thrown into. Thus, I have an ENORMOUS respect for cops.


OK Bluefox, this is how it works. State Troopers are guys that couldn't make it into the FBI, County Sheriffs are guys that couldn't make the troops, Local cops are simply the high school bullies.

Since leaving NY I haven't met a cop that I respect. Those boys up north had priorities, violent crimes and DWIs got their attention. The rest of the stuff was much less so. In Florida these cops will set up radar units in speed zones that are abnormally low and wait. You can buy/sell crack two blocks away...but don't speed. You can break you girlfriends leg, but don't speed.  You can shoot off guns in the middle of the night, but don't speed. My town is 3 square miles and at any given time I will pass two cops before I leave my town. Sometimes I will see 3 cops on one stretch of road. It is a top down problem from the chief to the patrol guy. The citizens of Florida are all victims, we live in a police state.

So good for you Blue Fox, you live in a rare place that the cops are cool, but come down to florida and spend a few days, chances are you'll go back without your license and probably a warrent for your arrest you don't even know about.


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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/15/2007 1:04:29 PM   
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No, Moto, it's not even close to entrapment.  Seriously, look it up.

And firefighters don't, "harrass" people because it's not their job to deal with your city's shitheads on a daily basis.  They aren't the enemy as soon as they arrive at the problem.

Some of you guys are some real jackasses.  You're being completely racist and you're completely oblivious to it.

"Some cops are pricks with a badge, some aren't."

Does that sound anything like, "some black people are just niggers and some are really cool."  "Some Mexicans are lazy, freeloading wetbacks, and some actually work."  "Some white people are just plain white trailer trash, and some pay their bills."

Wake the fvck up you morons... plain and simple, if it wasn't for police you'd have to kill a human probably more than once in your life.  Is that what you want?  It would happen.  You would wake up to your car windows being busted out once or twice a week.  What about your daughter being raped because there is no dedicated enforcement agency to use science to find her rapist?  You think you could crack a fvcking rape case? 

I don't think so, hell, I see countless typos from you morons in this thread alone... and you think you'd be better off without police.  Retarded.

Put it this way, braniacs.  Would you feel more or less safe if there weren't firemen?  Probably less safe because they provide a valuble service for less than, in most cases, $40K a year.  Well guess what, police also provide a service for the same low wage.  So if you think firefighters belong in this world because of what they do, then, BY OBVIOUS DEFAULT, you feel the same way about police.

Wake the fvck up idiots.

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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/15/2007 2:14:14 PM   
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wow calm down there bud. i agree with you all the way kidcr2nshaw.  but most of these people are saying these things are clearly ingnorint and are sore cuase they got cuaght. there is no point in arguing with them thouse cuase there not willing to listen or learn and thats why they think how they think.

i have a question for you guys when a you go to work and your boss tells you to do something do you just ignore your boss??? well police stations have certain guide lines  and these guide lines are usually set by what the citizens and the community wants .and though a police officer does have discretion they must also follow these guide lines. police officers are simply doing there job.

if your sick of geting tickets and stuff like that what do you do? to behonest if you want your local police habits to change go to your local town meetings.


most people truely dont know what intrapement really means. in a simple basic term intrapment is when a  law enforcment agent  coerces you to do something that you normally wouldnt do.



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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/15/2007 2:17:54 PM   
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You guys complain about speeding tickets.  Well last night while I was on patrol I did in fact hand out 3 tickets (slow night).  But in the process I also arrested a drunk driver (twice the legal limit) and handed out 2 -12hr suspensions of drivers licence due to alcohol consumption.  My partner had to go to a domestic by himself and arrested the guy for tuning up his wife.  I ended up putting in a 13hr night shift to complete my work and I have no idea when my buddy went home.
In fact over my two night shifts I was able to get 5 drunk drivers off of the road and yes hand out 8 tickets to deserving motorists along with answering all of my calls.
Am I saying this to get praise, no.  I am just letting you know that there are officers out there doing their job and loving it.
Are we heros??  No, we were doing what we were trained to do and do it without fear for our own safety.
I would like to thank all of the ladies and gents that post nice things about cops. 

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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/15/2007 3:19:44 PM   
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well I hear alot of don't generalize cops.Well when I get 9 outa 10 cops harrassing me well the label fits.No I'm not mad cause I got ticketed.I rarely get any tickets.I still get pulled over atleast once every 2 weeks for something stupid.here is my favorite excuse.look at mt tag.It is where it belongs and I have 2 lights I repeat 2 lights on my tag to keep it lit up. Now you tell me if my tag is illegal cause I have been pulled over atleast 10+ times with it. If you think it isn't in the right place then you tell me where to  put it

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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/16/2007 3:48:16 PM   
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I would say because you have the bolt holding on to your plate going through it, that would give then an excuse to pull you over.

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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/16/2007 4:04:41 PM   
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In Florida these cops will set up radar units in speed zones that are abnormally low and wait.


That's called a "speed trap", and yes, we have those here too. It's simple logic "NO SPEEDING = NO TICKET". If you were caught in a speed trap, you have only yourself to blame. If the posted limit is 50, and you go 55-60......you're speeding, regardless of what you feel the speed limit should be.

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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/16/2007 10:03:49 PM   
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I previously forgot to mention an experience I had with the local police.  It happens quite a bit too from what I hear.  Usually, about two or three cruisers will pull up on a group of bikes. The bikes are all parked at a local hang out like the park or a gas station or fast food joint or whatever. Anyway, they pull up all heated up with the lights on demanding everyone stop doing what they are doing an to get in line for picture time! Picture time involves getting your picture taken with your jacket/helmet, bike, and plate... The reason they do this is because of "an on going investigation".  They are trying to make a photo profile of the majority of riders so they can bust people from running/eluding the police.  I dont really know where Im goin with this I just thought I would share it with you to see if you guys have had similar experiences or what you all thought about it.  

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RE: "Directed Enforcement"....not "Quota... - 4/17/2007 4:56:08 AM   
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I previously forgot to mention an experience I had with the local police.  It happens quite a bit too from what I hear.  Usually, about two or three cruisers will pull up on a group of bikes. The bikes are all parked at a local hang out like the park or a gas station or fast food joint or whatever. Anyway, they pull up all heated up with the lights on demanding everyone stop doing what they are doing an to get in line for picture time! Picture time involves getting your picture taken with your jacket/helmet, bike, and plate... The reason they do this is because of "an on going investigation".  They are trying to make a photo profile of the majority of riders so they can bust people from running/eluding the police.  I dont really know where Im goin with this I just thought I would share it with you to see if you guys have had similar experiences or what you all thought about it.  


I like taking pictures with my bike.

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