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Hydrogen Booster - 4/25/2007 11:40:07 AM

omenology

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I decided a few days back that I'd really like to wire a hydrogen booster into the bike. I do have several questions though. One being "Do you think that there is any chance of engine damage?", "Is it feasible to wire it into one of the 3 alternator contacts and still have the bike run normally on the remaining two?" and "How hard would it be to run a couple of moderately-gauged wires from the alternator up to the front of the bike?". I don't know how much experience people have with this, but I'm really quite concerned with the last two. I was planning on wiring in a switch bypass for the system so that at idle I could avoid using that electrical power so I can be sure the battery charges and to really only use the system when I'm doing highway miles or when that guy down the street with the R6 decides he wants to race. My concern though is that I'll only be able to get enough voltage to charge the battery at those highway speeds because I will be taking so much of the power produced by the bike. Thoughts?

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/25/2007 12:44:25 PM

big10donjuan

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Whaaa???

wire a Whaaa to the front of the bike? are you serious?

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/25/2007 12:46:27 PM

omenology

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But it's wire that's coming straight out of the alternator so it's fairly small gauge. I was simply wondering if I'd run into kinks anywhere concerning available space to run it through the bike.

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/25/2007 2:14:27 PM

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hydrogen booster ? ? ?

http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/?gclid=CNr_oea73osCFRAYgQoduHa6WQ

isn't it for improving gas milage?

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/25/2007 2:35:49 PM

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Wow, I don't even know what to say. You can't be serious?

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/25/2007 2:46:42 PM

omenology

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Do you think that the electrical requirements are going to be too high for the bike's system to handle?

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/25/2007 6:58:45 PM

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I'd kind of like to know the source of the skepticism. Are there some logistical limitations on the bike that I haven't looked at? Does anyone have any answers regarding my initial questions? I have a Clymer's Manual, but it doesn't really say what the output is or what the minimum voltages are to run the bike, the lights, and the ignition system (that being the minimum electrical load).

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/25/2007 7:13:46 PM

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the manual has test procedures for determining if an electrical part is bad or not. just add the load numbers that you need to for each electrical component from service spec and that should give you a pretty good estimate. as far as the hydrogen boost goes, i'd have to see the site and research it a little. but my first question would be, if the kit technology is so efficient, why isn't it more well known or widely used? so with that said, what's the catch?

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/25/2007 7:34:51 PM

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It's a fluke, I think I seen it on Mythbusters where they proved that it doesn't work. Why would anybody need to make a bike any more fuel efficient. Just my opinion.

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/25/2007 7:52:31 PM

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Eh, just for the hell of it. Moreover, I wanted to see if it would add any more power to the system. As far the Mythbusters thing goes, that's not a very good source of information at all. They try to be impartial and maintain a good experimental process, but they simply get things wrong on a lot of occasions. I can't comment on the particular episode since I haven't seen it, but I can say that have "busted" various hypothesis that were in fact true. It's a show produced for entertainment purposes and thus ratings, but they most definitely are not always scientifically accurate or correct.

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/25/2007 8:10:09 PM

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Despite the fact that its totally ridiculous, I tried to put some thought into the question. I just dont see you bike being able to supply the 20 - 30 amps continuous for that to do any good, especially given that the stator on your bike (F1 right) didnt generate a lot of extra juice anyway. I can forsee a lot of expensive stator/regulator/and wiring repairs in exchange for questionable performance.

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/25/2007 8:43:36 PM

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Thank god somebody actually had some input I can use. It's frustrating that the stator doesn't have that much in terms of excess output (for this application anyway). Perhaps I'll just have to settle for putting it onto my car, but just for the hell of it I still might build a small one just to see what happens exactly.

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/25/2007 11:34:37 PM

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I agree on the stator comment, there wasn't much reason to generate more than the necessary power back in the day.

What about the extra work put on the engine to create that extra power? I know race cars don't have A/C or Alternators. Wouldn't running this thing require about enough power from the engine that the fuel and power gains wouldn't be evident?

let us know how it turns out.

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/26/2007 1:15:20 AM

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The idea is that you are running the device with the extra power created by the alternator. But, I don't think it would offer any benefits whatsoever to put on a larger alternator, although that would certainly be an idea if one were so inclined. I think I might just try to run it anyway, but who knows how well it'll work out. Oh well.

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RE: Hydrogen Booster - 4/26/2007 7:26:57 PM

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I just don't get why anybody would want to wire something to a little bike that will put a huge drain on the electrical system with the hopes of getting a small performance increase.... when you can just order a Nox system that will bolt on guaranteed horsepower for only a little more money.... I suppose it would be cool just to be the only one on your block with something like that....

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