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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 9:07:14 AM

Kearnsy

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When I bought mine new I was determined to test ride everything on the market first and test it like I stole it haha. Personally what sold me was the over all handling . Both comfortable as a commuter and an absolute weapon thru the twisties with enough go to still put the wind up Grandmar! At the end of the day only you will know the right bike for you. We are all different people with our own perceptions and influences . I am verry happy with my choice and a proud owner. Enjoy ur test rides ; Kearnsy

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 9:16:38 AM

city worker

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I started on a 93 F-2

still have it

its fast enough for me, great starter bike, great bike period ! I'll have it for along time, love my bike. I think its an image thing with noobs wanting a per say "modern sport bike" gota start with the baddest thing on the market

to imprese those with the latest GSXR's and go to the local bike night and hope they fit in

get a bike for you not yer buddies, yer the one thats puttin yer life on the line

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 9:18:13 AM

woot

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I just went back to a 600cc sport bike. An old dog slow F4. I've been riding for many years now, and have tried a few bikes out.

- This dog slow 600, hits 60mph in less than 4 seconds, blows by 120mph in not much more time, and runs up to 150mph in not much more time again.
- This bike will leave any car in it's dust within 50 feet. You're through an intersection before the car next to you has rolled a few feet.
- It will wheelie easily in the first two gears. It will stoppie or lock tires with only 1 finger on the brake lever (or a soft toe on the pedal).
- It will hold the road at 60mph while brushing bodywork.
- This bike is BEYOND my skill level. I can not get out of it what could be done with it. Not yet, and probably not for a long while.

Then the engineers at Honda decided they wanted to go faster. In 7 years we've gone ahead 3 generations, F4i, RR and then the new RR. We've gained probably 15% horsepower, dropped a significant ammount of weight, and added new features to get the power to the road.The new bikes leave this bike behind on the race track. On the road? It doesn't much matter as it's the same speed limit for all of us. I'll just get to it a few tenths of a second later... but at least my butt won't mind a 1000 mile ride ;)

What I am saying is that the current 600cc bikes leave the 2000 model year bikes behind. I owned a 95 Ninja, which my 2000 CBR leaves behind. The 600 Ninja was already alot of bike.

What I'm saying is that it's getting boring. The bikes are SO capable that the limits of sanity force you to not use the bike to it's potential. I miss pushing a bike to it's limits. I don't like feeling that I'm riding a bike that's so capable that in order to push it I need to ride it at at LEAST two times the speed limit.

You know what I want? A 400cc CBR. A 250cc Ninja. These bikes are a lot cheaper in every way, and way more fun.

Picture this. Perfectly twisty road. Sun shining. Which would you rather:

a) CBR 600, 3rd gear idling, speeding, but no effort.
b) ex250, redline, 3rd gear, speeding, fighting like mad to go faster.

Just me I guess ;)

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 10:20:13 AM

keith217

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im a rider with expierience and i just bought a 1993 cbr 600 f2 i can take that bike through corners and smoke an r1 any day. If u are an expirienced rider a 600 can still be a good choice any1 with a bigger bike if u live in pa find me well go ridn

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 11:25:32 AM

tyson_rr

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Yea i wish i would have read stuff like this but i got interested n these forums after i made a poor decision. I am a perfect example of what these people are telling you. When i was 18 i went out and bought a 06 cbr600rr figured i could handle fine. in a sense i could "handle" it but not exactly the power...Put in this way i LUCKILY had the slow speed handling pretty figured out naturally. so i rode with no real problems for awhile then soon i started pushing. one day i left work with a hand full of throttle and in a split second i was flying over the bars and skidding across the rode on my ass and the bike too. I highsided badly becuz i had a cold tire and tried to staiten up a burn-out way to quickly had i got more experiance this prolly never would have happened. So almost $1100 in parts/ fairings later my bike looks good again since then i have wised up a lot in my year of riding. That motorcycle class teaches a lot! OH and just cause you get a 600 doesnt make you look any cooler lol i get shit all the time from stupid squids who dont even have bikes talking bout beating me on a bicycle. Sometimes I wish theyd go buy a zx-14 or something similar and get WISED up quick but that would be pretty mean. Anyway just start on a older 600 they are funner you can ride the dog piss outta them and actually use ALL the available power.

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 12:05:59 PM

Fretless33

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All of this advice is outstanding and something every noob should read, but the major problem is this rider won't look cool to his friends...all of his friends made a bad choice and they're still alive, so why can't he make the same bad choice...roll the dice...my friend...roll the dice...

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 12:20:17 PM

bushmasterAR15

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quote:

Yea i wish i would have read stuff like this but i got interested n these forums after i made a poor decision. I am a perfect example of what these people are telling you. When i was 18 i went out and bought a 06 cbr600rr figured i could handle fine. in a sense i could "handle" it but not exactly the power...Put in this way i LUCKILY had the slow speed handling pretty figured out naturally. so i rode with no real problems for awhile then soon i started pushing. one day i left work with a hand full of throttle and in a split second i was flying over the bars and skidding across the rode on my ass and the bike too. I highsided badly becuz i had a cold tire and tried to staiten up a burn-out way to quickly had i got more experiance this prolly never would have happened. So almost $1100 in parts/ fairings later my bike looks good again since then i have wised up a lot in my year of riding. That motorcycle class teaches a lot! OH and just cause you get a 600 doesnt make you look any cooler lol i get shit all the time from stupid squids who dont even have bikes talking bout beating me on a bicycle. Sometimes I wish theyd go buy a zx-14 or something similar and get WISED up quick but that would be pretty mean. Anyway just start on a older 600 they are funner you can ride the dog piss outta them and actually use ALL the available power.

More people should read this story. Good post.

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 12:49:09 PM

F014tomcat

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Lookin4abike.... I have a whole 4,500 miles and 8 months of riding expierence. Here's my story, and yes, it will not be the answer you want to hear but read it anyway. I was originally looking at a ninja 500 or the yamaha FZ6. I got pressured into buying my '06 600RR by my friend who told me, "Buy what you like the looks of. You don't want to be riding around on something you'll hate in a month." So I got my orange/black RR. Took the MSF course, started slow and learned how to ride.

I've only dropped my bike once, (the second day) by stalling it, and losing my balance. No, I haven't hurt myself but I've gotten into plenty of scarry situations where "...if that car were on the other side of the yellow line....." or " ...couldn't brake in time because I'm going to fast and had to roll through a red light that's been red for more than 2 seconds..." I've gotten lucky, very lucky.... and learned from it. These bikes will bring you up to 70MPH in a 40 zone faster than you even realize it.

If I could do it over.... I'd buy something smaller and "uglier" like a ninja 500, or hell, even a 250! learn on that before trying to step up to something bigger.

I guess you could say I, "beat the odds" but I am no where near the skill level of people with equal experience and I never stop learning something everytime I get on my bike. I love my RR and wouldn't trade it for anything! BUT I would never recommend it to a brand new rider NO MATTER of the fact that I did it.

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 12:58:46 PM

abadfish

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I find it interesting that all those guys who say a 600 is fine for a first bike are not chiming in now that a bunch of people are saying its not a good first bike. There was another thread not too long ago where Knightslugger and I spoke out and everyone else went to town on us.

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 1:23:53 PM

holycrapitshassell

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quote:

ORIGINAL: abadfish

I find it interesting that all those guys who say a 600 is fine for a first bike are not chiming in now that a bunch of people are saying its not a good first bike. There was another thread not too long ago where Knightslugger and I spoke out and everyone else went to town on us.

it gets tiring trying to make sure that new guys are ok, they don't want advice, they want verification that they are right.
it gets old, 600s are a poor choice for a first bike, i'll leave it at that.

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 2:47:31 PM

Mstngdrew232

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I hate to admit it, but I agree with the general opinion of people on this forum. I've been riding my 600 for about 1-2 months now, and well, I would have rather started on smaller bike. While taking turns I try to hit the apex, but i weave from the inside, to middle of the lane, back to the inside then finnaly back out to the outside on the lane. Partialy because the throttle is so toutchy, and because there is a whole lot of things wrapped up in a turn.

Also, while taking turns if there is any oil or gravel and you give it a little to much gas, the back tire likes to slide, and its scary as death, even if you're taking a turn slow. A smaller bike would be easier to learn on, and would be better because it isnt as touchy and doesnt have as much power.

Getting used to the power is an interesting experience. I'm always running higher gears trying to stay in a low RPM so I can manage the power of the motorcycle, but I'm trying to shake that habbit so i dont damage the engine. Although, I dont know if I'd take back anything I've done because finding a good deal on a smaller bike then having to go through selling it and buying a 600 a few years after i've felt i've outgrown the bike is alot of work IMO. I couldn't imagine what a 1kRR or any other 1kCC bike would be like trying to learn on.

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 2:50:04 PM

daveh98

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what do you guys think of the new yamaha fz6 naked bike? I hear that is a pretty good starter bike and I think it looks pretty badass too.

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 3:44:10 PM

cstratton04

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mstngdrew232

I hate to admit it, but I agree with the general opinion of people on this forum. I've been riding my 600 for about 1-2 months now, and well, I would have rather started on smaller bike. While taking turns I try to hit the apex, but i weave from the inside, to middle of the lane, back to the inside then finnaly back out to the outside on the lane. Partialy because the throttle is so toutchy, and because there is a whole lot of things wrapped up in a turn.

Also, while taking turns if there is any oil or gravel and you give it a little to much gas, the back tire likes to slide, and its scary as death, even if you're taking a turn slow. A smaller bike would be easier to learn on, and would be better because it isnt as touchy and doesnt have as much power.

I feel you on the cornering. The throttle is very sensitive, and if you hit it too much on the apex you will be in trouble really quick.

To the OP, you asked why I said I would get a smaller cc bike to start with. There are so many things you need to worry about when learning how to ride (the mechanics of the transmission, throttle control, how to turn, watching for traffic, etc) you don't need to complicate it with precision steering, sensitive throttle, and scary powerful brakes.

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 6:44:39 PM

Silentalero

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mstngdrew232

I hate to admit it, but I agree with the general opinion of people on this forum. I've been riding my 600 for about 1-2 months now, and well, I would have rather started on smaller bike. While taking turns I try to hit the apex, but i weave from the inside, to middle of the lane, back to the inside then finnaly back out to the outside on the lane. Partialy because the throttle is so toutchy, and because there is a whole lot of things wrapped up in a turn.

Also, while taking turns if there is any oil or gravel and you give it a little to much gas, the back tire likes to slide, and its scary as death, even if you're taking a turn slow. A smaller bike would be easier to learn on, and would be better because it isnt as touchy and doesnt have as much power.

Getting used to the power is an interesting experience. I'm always running higher gears trying to stay in a low RPM so I can manage the power of the motorcycle, but I'm trying to shake that habbit so i dont damage the engine. Although, I dont know if I'd take back anything I've done because finding a good deal on a smaller bike then having to go through selling it and buying a 600 a few years after i've felt i've outgrown the bike is alot of work IMO. I couldn't imagine what a 1kRR or any other 1kCC bike would be like trying to learn on.

good post drew. Considering i sold him his bike, the throttle on the f4i is actually loose compared to the 600rr. If drew can make a post like this I'd hope you take the advice of the general public. My friend just got a 600rr a month ago and never rode before either. He wanted that or the r6 because" he didnt wanna get a bike he would hate in a month" Well a month later he now dropped it once when he lost his footing and slid out on a turn from inexperience + a sensitive throttle. So now the right side of his "bike he wont outgrow" has a scuffed up right side and a good $500 in repairs at least.

Personally im getting into track days and instead of tracking the 600rr and taking a step down and picking up an sv650 because its more forgiving. You friends can laugh all they want but at least your being responsible about the choice. Main problem is your gonna be so paronoid of the power of the 600rr or r6 or gsxr that your never going to truely learn how to ride it to its capabilities.

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RE: Lookin at the RR for my first - 4/26/2007 7:47:13 PM

transambird_2000

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Woot man you just described what my dad says all the time. He had a 70s model 750 back in the day and it was fast. He thinks my little 600rr is slow and wants to ride it. I will not let him because he refuses to wear full face helmet. He thinks is 750 will walk all over it. Of course he doesn't have it anymore so i can never prove him wrong. I started out on a 250 rebel (don't laugh) for 1500 bucks. You could peg the throttle through all the gears and well not out run much but it was fun and got 70mpg if you run the shit out of it. I got a f3 soon after that and gave my girlfriend my 250. She could out run me in the curves on that little thing for a long time because i didn't spend enough time on it to learn much. I wish i had the little thing back it was fun. I looked like an idiot on it but it was better than a scooter and would run 65 down the highway.

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