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RE: exhaust - 5/2/2007 11:33:18 PM
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bobjoezx
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whens the lat time the guy was calibrated..... and u went down 10 miles....... he was goin 10 miles at 204.... give me a break
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RE: exhaust - 5/2/2007 11:58:47 PM
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joey954rr
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NO DUDE! he just told me were to wait for him i dont know how long or how fast he got to that speed..i just know when he went buy me it was at 204....have faith my brother, and if he has done everything he said he has done..i will find out soon enough how capabile the bike is of those speeds....
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RE: exhaust - 5/3/2007 9:42:09 AM
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bobjoezx
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your story's dont make sence ur the one that said u went on a 15 mile flat road.. and u went down 10 miles.......
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RE: exhaust - 5/3/2007 1:18:48 PM
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freemanmj
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There is a huge difference between 180 and 200 mph. Aerodynamically, motorcycles are crude machines, and the physics of airflow management mean that even tiny gains in speed above 180 mph require enormous amounts of horsepower.
The amount of horsepower required to overcome aerodynamic drag rises as the cube of speed. Consider this: 160 hp is enough to push a stock Hayabusa to nearly 190 mph, but it would take closer to 225 hp to get that same bike to 200 mph--65 more hp for just 10 more mph on top. Going 200 mph on a production-based motorcycle is a huge accomplishment--indeed, there are only 42 riders in the East Coast Timing Association's (ECTA) elite "200-mph" club.
A stock 954 puts out 136 hp. None of the work you described will allow your friends bike to increase it's hp by almost 100 hp. I wish the next time I get pulled over the cop has your radar gun as it is obviously out of whack. Lastly, why the obsession with straight line speeds on public roads? Doesn't take much skill, only large balls. Hey we all like hitting high speeds once in awhile, but it just seems like you are overly obsessed with something that is not only realistically achievealbe on a 954, but not all that impressive on a public road. Now if you out brake a buddy into a tight turn, hit the apex perfectly, get back on the maximum throttle without high-siding, and set up perfectly for the next turn, now that is something to talk about (private race track of course).
Regards and safe riding
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RE: exhaust - 5/3/2007 6:55:45 PM
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mark21901
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radar guns need calibrated from what i hear...if thats true maybe you guns off. i dont think your going to break 200 on a 954 without dropping at least 6k into it. i.e. full exhaust. mapping, velocity stacks. 2 ply air filter, lighter wheels, 20-30 shot nos,vp-110 lets not forget plugs and wires..
i should mention though it is possible to break 200 on the 05gsxr1000 without putting more than 3k into it.
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RE: exhaust - 5/3/2007 7:11:02 PM
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outsider8
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radar guns need calibrated from what i hear...if thats true maybe you guns off. i dont think your going to break 200 on a 954 without dropping at least 6k into it. i.e. full exhaust. mapping, velocity stacks. 2 ply air filter, lighter wheels, 20-30 shot nos,vp-110 lets not forget plugs and wires..
i should mention though it is possible to break 200 on the 05gsxr1000 without putting more than 3k into it.
i agree-except for a full exhuast-imo-the exhaust will need to be open as low and mid-range
torque is not a factor-that run would take everything that engines got-plus countless mods!!
that is the engine-suspension needs to be set/built for it as well!!-if you did the work yourself
6k is close-i would bet closer to 7k-8k,that would be one bad-ass 954!!!
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RE: exhaust - 5/4/2007 12:13:23 AM
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joey954rr
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i am a very skilled rider and i love to ride street..i love to play and i can put that 954 in a turn with my knee on the ground and i love it...but i have been riding so long that i want to try something else..i have mastered street riding and pushing a bike to its limits in turns,excel.,performance..also i have never hit 200mph, i am a bit of a speed freak..but i would not call it an absession but it is a goal of mine to hit 200mph even if i have to put a huge shot of nos to get me there...but i dont know if you guys understand that i live for riding hard and fast..i ride the line between crazy and stupid...it may be a dangerous place to be but it keeps me going...
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RE: exhaust - 5/4/2007 9:29:17 AM
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bobjoezx
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i am a very skilled rider and i love to ride street..i love to play and i can put that 954 in a turn with my knee on the ground and i love it...but i have been riding so long that i want to try something else..i have mastered street riding and pushing a bike to its limits in turns,excel.,performance..also i have never hit 200mph, i am a bit of a speed freak..but i would not call it an absession but it is a goal of mine to hit 200mph even if i have to put a huge shot of nos to get me there...but i dont know if you guys understand that i live for riding hard and fast..i ride the line between crazy and stupid...it may be a dangerous place to be but it keeps me going...
why dont u go on the damn track and be somone... instead of trying to ****ing hit 200mph on a damn public road and then we have to come clean your ass up when u crash because ur tire decided to blow or u hit someone ... go to the damn track u want to go that fast..
by the way.... how old are u ... how much expierence do u have etc.....
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RE: exhaust - 5/4/2007 10:13:20 AM
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freemanmj
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ORIGINAL: joey954rr
i am a very skilled rider and i love to ride street..i love to play and i can put that 954 in a turn with my knee on the ground and i love it...but i have been riding so long that i want to try something else..i have mastered street riding and pushing a bike to its limits in turns,excel.,performance..also i have never hit 200mph, i am a bit of a speed freak..but i would not call it an absession but it is a goal of mine to hit 200mph even if i have to put a huge shot of nos to get me there...but i dont know if you guys understand that i live for riding hard and fast..i ride the line between crazy and stupid...it may be a dangerous place to be but it keeps me going...
Common dude. Skilled rider? Mastered street riding? No way. That takes years, and skilled riders are admit to still learning. How long have you been riding? How many miles of riding do you have? Do you have 30,000 miles of under your belt. How about the ability to look at a new turn an know exactly how much entry speed you can safely use without giving up your sight distance. This only comes through miles of experience. Knee on the ground? Do you know that many AMA racers say that while they get a knee down on the track, they don't even come close on the road. Why? Because the speeds you need to do something like that on the street are just asking for trouble. And this what "skilled riders" say about their street skills. Skilled riding is way more than getting your knee down and or hitting 200 mph. Very skilled, don't delude yourself. Not to sound harsh but sounds like your are more like a squid. Wouldn't be surprised if you ride in sneakers, jeans, and no jacket. BTW, crazy and stupid are the same thing.
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RE: exhaust - 5/4/2007 3:44:14 PM
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darkness954
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if you have to hit 200 just turbo it man you can probably do it your self wit the skills you got... i wouldnt go chase a number man ive maxed my bike out on a few group rides and its fcukin scary hiting 170+ with nothing around you catch a head shake at high speeds and let me know how that feels because i felt like my heart stopped
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RE: exhaust - 5/5/2007 1:09:19 AM
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joey954rr
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ok guys, the way i ride is the way i ride....i am 30 years old and i have been on a sportbike scince i was 16...I have a truck now but up intil 2 years ago i have only owned a bike to get around...maybe the track is the safest way to hit those speeds but around here there is no track long enough to allow me to do that...and i dont have the money to travel around and find one...so i try my luck on public roads...when there is no traffic...i wear full gear and i try to make rash judgments when i ride...i am not out of control and try to be safe..i just would like to hit 200mph...and if you know of a better way for me to do that then great ..help me out...i got on here for advice..but it seems that you guys are bashing on me,which is cool, you have your opinons..and i except them..but i dont ask any of you to try the things i am doing..and if i fail than i will have to try something else...i consider myself to be a skilled rider because i have been riding pretty hard for 15 years and i am still here...so i appreciate everyones input but try to help me hit those speeds instead of telling me how impossible they are....my bike will be complete on sunday..monday morning i will try my luck and see what these mods that i have made will do and i will post on monday afternoon to let you guys know how it went...
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RE: exhaust - 5/5/2007 1:23:49 AM
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joey954rr
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oh yea...those of you who posted and actually know what there talking about..please leave all the input you can for me...i bought this bike because i have a friend that has the same bike going 200+ All i want to do is the same... so all input is welcome...i have a little money to do this project...so please let me know ant secrets to getting this bike over 200..but i will let you guys know monday if i can break that barrier...
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RE: exhaust - 5/8/2007 12:15:32 AM
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joey954rr
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well guys...picked up the bike this morning and took it strait to the dyno....said bike is capable on 200+ speeds...went to my long road over in galveston and the guy i clocked with the radar gun at 204 had radar gun...fastest he clocked me was 187....i have the exact mods he does...so the only thing we could think of is that he weights about 20lb lighter than me and there was 15 mph head wind....will have to try again later....P.S. this bike is scary as hell at those speeds...it wobbles like crazy and vibration feals like it is going to fall apart...dont know if i will try again on this bike....but i do have to say...the bike pulled up in the first 2 gears took me about 1.5 miles to hit top speed held 187 for about a mile then let off....honestly, i had 2k rpm before red line left....but got scared from the wobble and vibration....if you guys have any hints on how to make the bike more stable please throw me a couple,,,
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RE: exhaust - 5/8/2007 12:49:53 AM
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WoodyRR
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Lowered 3 inches?!?!? I haven't looked into lowering too much, but is this even possible? Joey, just shut up with all the talk and let us know when you get to ride your bike w/mods. If your buddy has the same mods on the same bike that it's in the same condition, and you don't weigh any more than him, than you should be getting a very similar performance result. Let us know when it's done. It's been about a week since your first post, how much longer until it's done? Whatever happened to your initial problem with your "custom airbox"?
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ORIGINAL: joey954rr
friend of mine owns a bike shop...the results were tested on a dyno...i went ahead and bought a full exhaust...so i will find out soon enough what my bike will do...and i will post dyno results...
You talk about dyno results, but you didn't even tell us anything about what the results showed. If the dyno showed 200 MPH top speed, then how could he hit 204 on the street with all the wind resistance?! I don't mean to rag on you Joey, but this all seems like BS...I guess I have to see to believe, or you have to fill in these "holes" in what you're saying.
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RE: exhaust - 5/8/2007 2:01:57 AM
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bobjoezx
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BS 110%....... so many holes in your damn story it's a joke..... i have been at 183 indicated on my 954 which is about 170 but it sure didn't seem like it was going to fall apart.. maybe it's just you and your magic 200 mph 954.....lets see a pic of this bike.. are you sure you are not paying a video game..... come over and ride with me... see if you can hang then you can post this BS
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