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RE: powering up vs. power wheelie - 5/1/2007 10:38:39 AM   
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Hmmm....i guess i'm a squid? Or maybe half a squid......I power up (actually, bounce) but straight to bp...So, i'm half a squid for powerin instead of clutchin, but only half because i can ride at bp lol....so it's like i got 1 leg and 1 tentacle.

BUT--for the record: I've been apart of many of these clutch/bounce debates. I've concluded that clutching is more predictable, to a certain extent. If you're gonna learn how to wheelie, definitely learn it using the clutch method. However, for someone like me who learned how to pull the wheel without the clutch, well i'm pretty much set in my ways lol. I can bring it up in any gear, 1st through 5th, without the clutch----but only because that how i've been doing it for years. I can clutch, but it's not comfortable for me because it's not how I learned it (unless i'm sittin down). It's crazy, but i think it's simply the difference in the way that you hold onto the bars! When i wheelie, i have all fingers completely on the bars. That one finger that it takes to clutch it up makes me feel like i'm outside my comfort zone lol.

Anyways, enough rambling. If you're new, learn to clutch it. That's my final answer! lol.

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RE: powering up vs. power wheelie - 5/1/2007 1:32:13 PM   
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I like to chase my wheel  :P  im like a dog in the wind chasing something out the car window  :P    My question is, if you clutch it lower than bp, is it ok to bring it up to bp?  I myself would rather not try and hop it to bp everytime, as different circumstances bring the wheel up faster.....  Im getting closer to being at bp each time.  I can ride them for quite a ways.  I seem to gain a bit of speed then hold steady, then gain, then steady, and I feel it getting too high in the revs, dont want to limit out, so I set it back down.   How big of a window do you have at bp? I know im right at the edge and its KILLING me


LOL

i know exactly what you mean. the higher you go(closer to bp) the slower the revs will go up. thus, the longer u'll be able to ride it out. u should be able to tell when you're getting close to rev-limiter by the sound of the bike.

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RE: powering up vs. power wheelie - 5/1/2007 1:36:57 PM   
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Hmmm....i guess i'm a squid? Or maybe half a squid......I power up (actually, bounce) but straight to bp...So, i'm half a squid for powerin instead of clutchin, but only half because i can ride at bp lol....so it's like i got 1 leg and 1 tentacle.

BUT--for the record: I've been apart of many of these clutch/bounce debates. I've concluded that clutching is more predictable, to a certain extent. If you're gonna learn how to wheelie, definitely learn it using the clutch method. However, for someone like me who learned how to pull the wheel without the clutch, well i'm pretty much set in my ways lol. I can bring it up in any gear, 1st through 5th, without the clutch----but only because that how i've been doing it for years. I can clutch, but it's not comfortable for me because it's not how I learned it (unless i'm sittin down). It's crazy, but i think it's simply the difference in the way that you hold onto the bars! When i wheelie, i have all fingers completely on the bars. That one finger that it takes to clutch it up makes me feel like i'm outside my comfort zone lol.

Anyways, enough rambling. If you're new, learn to clutch it. That's my final answer! lol.

-Adam



ur telling me u can pop ur 600rr up in ALL 1st to 5th gear without the clutch?

i cann BS!

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RE: powering up vs. power wheelie - 5/1/2007 3:03:24 PM   
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depends on where you live dirty... ive seen vid of guys near sea level bouncin up 600RR's in 5th gear.... they're goin pretty fast, but it works.  

edit* btw, thanks for the info.   I keep trying to just listen so I know when im at bp but my body/balance is telling me FU in a really loud voice.  unfortunately my throttle hand looooves listening to the latter

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RE: powering up vs. power wheelie - 5/1/2007 3:40:31 PM   
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BlindLOKI, on the street, you have a while from bp to hitting the tail. obviously, the faster you go, the lower your bp is, and the lower your bp is, the further you are from looping. you can bring the bike past bp, close the throttle, and have it come back down w/o any brake. you just have to have throttle control and good body language. on the street i usually dont clutch to bp. ill gain a little speed before i hit bp. but thats just my style on the street. in the lot, i clutch past bp so i can land on idle. just get your brake control down (if you dont yet) and play around.


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RE: powering up vs. power wheelie - 5/1/2007 3:45:01 PM   
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depends on where you live dirty... ive seen vid of guys near sea level bouncin up 600RR's in 5th gear.... they're goin pretty fast, but it works.  

edit* btw, thanks for the info.   I keep trying to just listen so I know when im at bp but my body/balance is telling me FU in a really loud voice.  unfortunately my throttle hand looooves listening to the latter


LOL

i can hardly(can't) "clutch" up my f4i in 2nd gear, how the hell do they do it in 5th AND WITH POWER!?!

p.s. if you've got a cage and if you're not worried about dropping your bike. practice clutching up from a dead stop and cover the back brake. clutch it up hard so the bike comes right UP and try to catch bp with the back break.....after u do it a 100 times and you think you got em down, do it another 100 times and ull be golden.

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RE: powering up vs. power wheelie - 5/1/2007 4:54:05 PM   
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after u do it a 100 times and you think you got em down, do it another 100 times and ull be golden.



thats exactly what old man roger told you on stunt life when u posted your avatar and asked if that was balance point


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RE: powering up vs. power wheelie - 5/1/2007 5:09:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dirtytoes

after u do it a 100 times and you think you got em down, do it another 100 times and ull be golden.



thats exactly what old man roger told you on stunt life when u posted your avatar and asked if that was balance point



LOL

nahh, it wasn't in that thread, he told someone else in another thread. i think it was somethin about coasters.

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RE: powering up vs. power wheelie - 5/1/2007 5:15:15 PM   
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Haha call all the BS you want, but i've done it. Didn't say it was pretty in 5th, and it's at about 105mph...and i'm not talkin about ridin at BP at that speed---it's so fast that the wind will flip you (at least it felt like it).

But as far as the other gears, i usually pull it up:

1st gear: ummm....2mph? lol
2nd gear: anywhere from 20-40mph (standing)
3rd gear: anywhere from 35-75mph
4th gear: anywhere from 65-100
5th gear: only done it twice, was goin 100-105

This is just for me personally. It should be noted that i'm down 1 in the front and up 2 in the back....it was hell gettin it up in 4th with stock gearing, i don't know if i could've in 5th. The reason i'm givin such a broad range of speeds is because it's all about feel....example: 3rd gear at 35 mph needs a hard bounce, while 3rd gear at 65 requires just a little. Am i confusin anyone? lol

You don't have to believe me....i've got one witness for both times in 5th, but my goal wasn't to try and brag about any wheelie that i've done, just to kinda voice my opinion on the whole clutchin thing.

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RE: powering up vs. power wheelie - 5/1/2007 5:50:07 PM   
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its not that we dont believe u, its that we just dont care lol

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RE: powering up vs. power wheelie - 5/1/2007 5:55:48 PM   
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That hurt man.....deep. I thought that this was the place to come and share all of my problems with everyone.....i guess i gotta go back to watchin oprah.....



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RE: powering up vs. power wheelie - 5/2/2007 5:39:59 PM   
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no, oprah will just shit on you cause your riding a bike, and you prolly eat meat too.  hahahahah

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RE: powering up vs. power wheelie - 5/17/2007 9:38:01 PM   
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if youre powering it up to get to BP or no BP youre still doin a power wheelie!

powering it up is a term in a way like its a morphin time for the power rangers haha

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