RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 7:51:30 PM
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fuze
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You have your whole life, 2 years is nothing. I'd say to focus on your education, if you absolutely must have a sport bike get something slower then a modern 600rr... It's nothing llike those bike's you rode at the MSF.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 7:51:42 PM
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mccannf3
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Dude your father knows you best. If doesn't think your ready for a street bike you need to respect his wishes. He is not saying no just to be a dick, I know at 19 it probably seems that way, but the bottom line is you'll probably kill yourself on it or seriously hurt yourself. My parents told me the same thing. For years I thought they were just being dicks, but because they were my parents and I respected them I waited. I finally joined the military and moved out on my own. It wasn't until then when I started to understand what my parents were talking about. I realized I was to immature to have had a real streetbike, I know I would've killed myself, you kids don't realize how much power these bike actually have and how quickly one wrong move or desicion can change your life, or end it! Your talking about a 600rr, that is a serious machine, I know you and your buddies are talking about the 1000's out there, and the one you want is only a 600, but it can kill you, and the 600rr is a very powerful machine. My suggestion to you is to wait, wait until your a more experienced driver, wait until your a more mature man, it could possibly save your live. If none of what I have had to say is what you want to hear, sorry you asked for input, but someone earlier said its his house his rules. Your the big 19 now, move out! Take some of the money you have for your bike and move out then he can't say anything about you owning a bike. Then you will need to face the real world and you will quickly learn that there is more to life than disagreeing with your father. This is just my .02 and have not intended to offend any one. Good luck with whatever you decide to do, and always remember to wear your gear, be safe, and ALWAYS watch out for everyone else on the road! Ride as if none of them see you, something I always told myself was everyone always has the right of way, even when they are wrong! You will not win if you try to prove your point on a bike!
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 7:56:33 PM
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Shocktroop
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Gotta go by the house rules. I wouldn't dissrespect my pop like that. see if you can meet in the middle, like a ninja 250 or gs 500 or something, take an MSF course, better yet ask him to take one with you also for kicks. If you get the bike and leave it at a friends house he'll find out and be super pissed, or worse, immagine him having to come see you in the hospital if you laid it down really bad, or trying to explain road rash, unless of course, you plan on not wrecking, but we all know how that goes. Be honest to him, listen to his concerns, and see if you two can't work out an agreement. Might not be the RR you want, but it'll still get you on the road, and surely allot cheaper.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 7:56:55 PM
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roki530i
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NO sympathy here. I agree 100%. I dont think I would allow my 19yr old on any type of modern sportbike, maybe, just maybe a 250, but I doubt it. I am even even of the belief that most young men should not have a bike until they are 25 or older (that is a very, very general statement) but in truth, most teenagers and young men have balls way bigger than their brains. Its just a fact. Ever wonder why insurance is so high on young men? becuase odds are, your balls are going to get you into trouble, be it women, speed, pride, or whatever. Now, I dont need everyone replying about "just cause you did when you were young, or not me, Im a very mature 20yr old" -whatever its just the odds. and a fact of life.
He is also correct, that you may need more time on the road. you been driving 3yrs. Has he said this to you yet "Hell, Ive spent more time backing up than you spent driving forward" That is not at all to say you are a bad driver, or dont know what your doing. but, it does mean that there is alot that you have not seen or experienced yet.
good luck, if you really, really, really want a bike. make him a deal. take half the cash that you have saved for a new bike, and buy a slighty older, less pretty bike, and
buy it for track use only. then take the rest of your cash, and buy some track days and track schools. Then, you can get out and ride your bike, in a safe environment, and learn the right way to ride a bike and go fast, and I garuantee your old man will feel much better about it. He's just worried, he loves you.
**** that you only live once my man do what you got to do. i was in the same situation no way in hell i was going to get it from them they said theyd kick me out if i ever got one after they saw me saving up money and working. well guess what on my birthday in may i bought my 05 cbr 600rr (bought it last year 19 now) and brought it home and they just had to deal with it. they just think theyre protecting you and hoping you will listen to them and not buy it for now. all i have to say is ride smart and dont be a dickhead and you'll be fine. get what you want while you want it man.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 8:02:46 PM
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jaynd
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i kinda feel you're pain....but not completely, lol. i have ALWAYS wanted a sportbike and my mom has always been there 100% against it. i've heard all the facts, all the deaths in the county......she'd even come home from work telling me about motorcycle wrecks she had seen on her way home. it never swayed my decision. i ended up buying a quad, since a sportbike seemed so distant at the time (20yrs old). that in the end didnt help her negativity towards bikes, lol.......as i began to stunt the quad. she assumed i'd get a bike and do the same foolish things. i signed up for the MSF class, showed her that i was studying.....reading up on things online and trying to learn about it. i then ordered a helmet and gloves and took the MSF class. got home that day and i do believe she was wanting to hear that i had failed. i told her i had passed and w/ a sigh she said "oh thats good". no one in my family was anxious or jumping for joy about me getting a bike. but they understood it was a something i'd wanted for the longest time. so i sold the quad, and im now the proud owner of a '01 minty F4i (im now 22yrs old)! my mom and dad.....and sis still arent exactly in love w/ the bike yet, lol. but they grow used to it. i have even had all of them (sepereate occasions) ride behind me as we are going somewhere. just showing them that im a safe ride and i try to cross my tee's and dot my I's. i've even taken my sis for a ride down the street on it and she is begining to like the bike and they all are slowly feeling at ease. and actually just this past sunday i think i found out why my mom has such a hatred towards bikes. she told me how when she was younger, she went for a ride w/ someone and they dumped her off the back. is it possible that your dad has had some bad experience in the past w/ bikes?
BUT, its you're dads house and his rules. you COULD buy one but know that you may walk out there one day geared up to go for a spin on it and dad has wrapped a gigantic cable lock through every whole imaginable on that bike and you have no key! and as far as people off of this forum helping you w/ advice.......that wont help. you just need to keep reasuring you're dad that you will be safe. granted you cant make everyone around you be safe....but that you'll stay on point and ride w/ some sense.
just keep nagging i guess, lol. good luck and keep us posted.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 8:04:56 PM
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TheX
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His house his rules- don't like it then move the hell out, too bad, so sad.
That's life- deal with it.
Amen to that, grow up and move the hell out. You've been posting about this forever, first about this, then about that, blah blah blah and still no bike.
Maybe next year, maybe.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 8:14:26 PM
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I'd say your screwed for now. Didn't you just buy a helmet online? Start wearing it in the house. IDK maybe he'll come around. 
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 9:18:33 PM
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I'd say your screwed for now. Didn't you just buy a helmet online? Start wearing it in the house. IDK maybe he'll come around.
Yeah, in fact, you did buy a helmet didn't you? That HJC helmet that was all jacked up wasn't it? http://www.cbrforum.com/m_310982/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#310982 Don't buy a used helmet when it's that screwed up. Especially since you were planning to use it on the streets. That tells me you still have a lot to learn, but then again we all do.
I got my first bike when I was 19. My parents didn't want me to get one, but it was my decision. I felt that I was more mature than most 19 year olds at that time. If you happen to choose to disobey your dad and get a bike, you better be careful. You better learn a lot and learn it fast. Honestly, I wouldn't let my son get a bike unless I knew that he could handle it and that he was mature enough. I don't really know you, so I'm going to go with a person who knows you better - your dad. Just wait till 21, dude.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 9:20:18 PM
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amaank
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I'm 19 years old and have been riding quads and bikes for quite a while now, except i have never drove any of them on the road(legally). Now that i want to get a cbr600rr i've sold all my quads and finally have the money for one........Except there's a major problem! My dad says i cannot get one until i am 21 if i live at his house--Which basically means i can't get one until im 21, i'm a college student so moving out is out of the story. He says everyone he knows that has a bike has been in some type of evidence. And he always brings up how many people have died this spring on motorcycles just in out County alone.
Man i think your dad is right... i don't feel like i should be talking since i'm younger than you.
But when i bought my bike recently my dad told me clearly that the bike is a deathtrap. I agree with him completely.
I told my parents that i wasn't afraid of the bike but i was bloody terrified of getting injured on it... . 
< Message edited by amaank -- 6/12/2007 9:21:35 PM >
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 9:25:25 PM
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roki530i
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+1 a bike is basically death on two wheels..atleast thats what my dad would say..he'd say anything to try and change my mind...but it didn't help your going to do what you want to do if you have your heart set on it, set on having one then you'll find a way around it and have what you want.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 9:49:23 PM
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mattyrides07
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Been there, done that...THREE TIMES. I always talked about getting a bike. Then when I was 20 my IRISH twin and I decided to take the MSF class (and get our license) BEFORE my 21st birthday. After I took the class Mom and Dad told me how they "REFUSED" to let me live under their roof if I bought a motorcycle. I told them all the facts of sportbike riding (good and bad) that way they could feel comfortable in the fact that I did research, and wasn't just flying by the seat of my pants. My first bike was a beginer bike (1996 Yamaha Seca II), and I made sure they thought it couldn't go over 80MPH. Even though they didn't approve of it, they eventually got used to me having an motorcycle (but wouldn't let me park it in the garage). When I sold my Seca and bought my 1st F4i, they HATED the fact that I got a "crotch rocket." However, they were afraid of my "nice" bike getting stolen, and let me park it in the garage. Long story short, my parents have seen me drive safe, slow, fast, but NEVER have seen me drive irratic (because I don't drive this way) and that is how I gained their trust. The argument is still two things: 1. "It's not you we're worried about, it's the other driver's that don't see you." 2. "Everytime we come home and your bike is gone not a minute passes that I don't worry. I only stop worrying when I hear the garage open and I know you're home.
PS- I let my folks know that I know that I have a greater chance at dying while riding my bike, but at the same time I would rather die doing something I loved then ANY other way. I also let them know that I don't want to be kept alive if I'm going to have to live as a vegtable for the rest of my life.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 10:05:51 PM
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When I was 19, there was nothing I wanted more than a black Ninja 600. (They were so cool back in the day). I used to go to the dealership all the time and just drooled all over it but the sky-high insurance stopped me from buying it. Looking back and thinking about all the stupid immature things I've done in my life I probably would have died on that bike.
Point being, waiting might not be such a bad thing...
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 10:06:36 PM
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oreo
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Myfriend,as stated before, His house, his rules. But believe me, there is n better feelin in the world than when you finally grow up, graduate and buy your own house, then you can invitehim over and say, My house, my rules. as for the bike, get a dirt bike or quad and keep off roading it until you are 21. It's not worth it to get into a war with your familly because you want to buy something that they already said NO. If you where my son and you boght it anyway, the bike would get sold as soon as it got to the house and you would take the loss in value (which is about 25% as soon as it rolls of te dealership)
sorry to be harsh, ust trying to save you the grief of going through it for real.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 10:23:14 PM
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roki530i
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If you where my son and you boght it anyway, the bike would get sold as soon as it got to the house and you would take the loss in value (which is about 25% as soon as it rolls of te dealership)
sorry to be harsh, ust trying to save you the grief of going through it for real.
if you were my dad and you did that... i dont know...i guess i'd probably have to sell you then... and buy back my bike.. because that wouldnt be cool man..
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