RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/13/2007 12:17:08 PM
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voodoochyl
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I think it is a good idea to get on a forum, even if you don't have a bike. To me, it is like doing research. If you can gain knowledge from other riders that is great. There is a wealth of knowledge on these forums (especially this one) .
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/13/2007 1:56:17 PM
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holycrapitshassell
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lol dude if you have money to be burning on bikes and other bullshit you don't need, then you need to move the f**k out of your parents house. at 19 you're too old to have your parents telling you what to do. prove your responsibility by living on your own, that way you can do what the hell you want
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/13/2007 2:48:05 PM
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Grlzridet0o69
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ORIGINAL: voodoochyl I think it is a good idea to get on a forum, even if you don't have a bike. To me, it is like doing research. If you can gain knowledge from other riders that is great. There is a wealth of knowledge on these forums (especially this one) . I agree with you Voodoo...=)
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/13/2007 2:51:43 PM
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HAVOC
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do you really think your dad will throw you out if you brought home a bike ? ive had a few friends who have had parents threaten that and you know what happened ... nothing. their parents werent comfortable with the idea but allowed it eventually. same thing with my mom she never wanted me or my brother to have motorcycles. after we got our bikes she slowly started realizing it was what we wanted and were going to do it so now all she wants is for us to be safe. there is a local stunt spot near my house and on bike night (thursdays around here) my parents will go out and watch all the stunters and check out the awsome bikes . i might just be really lucky to have great parents but i think all parents just want their kids to be happy and safe. it seems you have taken the right steps (took the msf class, got your licence, bought the gear) so you are showing your dad that you can be responsible and level headed about it. maybe you should just have a heart to heart with hima nd find out whats really keeping him from trusting you on a bike.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/14/2007 10:18:57 AM
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christhek
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Gaining knowledge is great and a forum could be a good way to do that. But when did anonymous people on the 'net become good sources of info to deal with family problems. And this is exactly what this is, a family problem. Or at least a family situation. Why isn't he asking his friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers or classmates? Seems to me that anyone at 19 and going out to the internet to ask how to deal with Dad and his wishes to not buy a bike is proving that he isn't ready to make decisions on his own. 19 and living at home you are "stuck in-between." Either you are an adult or your're a kid living at home, and no one on any forum can understand your family. And all the advice to just do it and hide it or whatever is exactly what this "kid" doesn't need. He needs to talk with his dad and work things out within his own family. I didn't buy a bike until I was 30 but I still talked to my parents about it out of respect (and that fact I had several bikes accidents as a kid) and I didn't want them to worry. This is a decision my wife and I made within our own family and the rest was a courtesy to the other members of my family. This is the way it works in my family and no one may understand that. Asking for advice is great but ultimately you need to make your own decisions. All of this is opinion and maybe that's the point of this whole thing...
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/14/2007 3:54:28 PM
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MyRulz
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ORIGINAL: christhek Parent's house, parent's rules. Move out or suck it up. 19 is a tough age as you are an adult but still living under house rules. No one on the forum can get involved in your family dynamic. This is 100% correct. Sorry, I know it sucks for you, but it's true. Please don't disrespect your Dad by lying. Play by the rules and everyone wins. One day you may have a 19 year old son living at home ... then you will understand.
< Message edited by MyRulz -- 6/14/2007 4:00:12 PM >
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/14/2007 4:18:54 PM
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compulady5
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buy it and keep that and all your gear in a storage unit.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/14/2007 8:57:48 PM
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95camaro01f4i
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why are you guys telling this kid to undermind his parents? how would you feel if your kid went out and did that. hell if you were my kid and brought a bike home id lock it up. not only that but you are teaching someone they dont need to obey the rules and if they dont obey there parents rules why obey the rules of the road.
< Message edited by 95camaro01f4i -- 6/14/2007 8:59:00 PM >
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/14/2007 9:26:34 PM
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HAVOC
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im sure our parents didnt want any of us having sex when we were younger we were supposed to wait untill we got married right? how many people actually waited untill they got married to do it? just because a parents doesnt want something doesnt mean they wont understand afterwards and be more open to it now that its happened .. its the same thing with the bike. he is a legal adult, he took the msf class and got his licence, he bought protective gear. he has shown that he is mature enough to make responsible choices and what if his dad is just a no pleasing hard ass who didnt want him joining the soccer team instead to play football just liek he did when he was younger..(you think he should give up what HE wants just to please his DAD because its what his DAD WANTS?) there is no reason this kid has to give total control of his life over to his parents. he is allowed to make choices and live with the consequences.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/14/2007 9:57:33 PM
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95camaro01f4i
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ORIGINAL: HAVOC im sure our parents didnt want any of us having sex when we were younger we were supposed to wait untill we got married right? how many people actually waited untill they got married to do it? just because a parents doesnt want something doesnt mean they wont understand afterwards and be more open to it now that its happened .. its the same thing with the bike. he is a legal adult, he took the msf class and got his licence, he bought protective gear. he has shown that he is mature enough to make responsible choices and what if his dad is just a no pleasing hard ass who didnt want him joining the soccer team instead to play football just liek he did when he was younger..(you think he should give up what HE wants just to please his DAD because its what his DAD WANTS?) there is no reason this kid has to give total control of his life over to his parents. he is allowed to make choices and live with the consequences. till he moves out of his parents house his parents have control over his life. if your judging people what they say on the internet and not knowing them in person, then i own a 07 z06 have 50g in my pocket and 3 thousand dollar sneekers on. there maybe more to this kid that his parents know that you dont. i have one freind that is very responsible and wants a bike but he is a tottal spaz cant even drive a 5speed would you want to see him on a bike???? you cant judge someone by what they say on the internet and just being resposible isnt enogh to ride a bike.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/14/2007 10:12:16 PM
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HAVOC
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and you cant sit there and say that he has to follow he parents rules. what if his dad (no offense) is like a druggie who is strung out all the time or he beats on him should he still listen to his dad about getting a bike then ? my previous post still holds up. kids do things that piss their parents off and then the parents get over it. TRUE i dont know the OP . might there be more to this situation YOU BET YOUR ASS THEIR IS. THERE IS ALWAYS 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY. but to sit here and say unequivicaly(sp?) that his dad is right he shouldnt own a bike isnt fair. he deserves the right to ride if he wants. he needs to sit down with his dad and work out the other issues that are really causing the problem here and only him and his dad know what those are.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/14/2007 10:25:46 PM
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TheX
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ORIGINAL: compulady5 buy it and keep that and all your gear in a storage unit. That is some seriously stupid advice.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/14/2007 10:26:40 PM
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95camaro01f4i
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ORIGINAL: HAVOC and you cant sit there and say that he has to follow he parents rules. what if his dad (no offense) is like a druggie who is strung out all the time or he beats on him should he still listen to his dad about getting a bike then ? my previous post still holds up. kids do things that piss their parents off and then the parents get over it. TRUE i dont know the OP . might there be more to this situation YOU BET YOUR ASS THEIR IS. THERE IS ALWAYS 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY. but to sit here and say unequivicaly(sp?) that his dad is right he shouldnt own a bike isnt fair. he deserves the right to ride if he wants. he needs to sit down with his dad and work out the other issues that are really causing the problem here and only him and his dad know what those are. you win never said his dad was right. i said under his dads roof his rules. he wants to move out and buy a bike then well then to bad for his dad. and if his dad is a abusive drugy i hope he does move out asap and im sure if he could afford a bike and his dad was an abusive druggy he would have moved out. what i said is its fed up for you guys for telling this guy to go behind his fathers back and get a bike after his father told him not to. and if you want to messure responsiblity how responsible of him was it to go buy gear after his dad said no or to take the msf . listen im not saying i dont want to see the kid get a bike but its stupid to put a bike between him and his dads relationship for one. second to go behind his back is another. but hey you win. you want to tell some kid to not listen to his parents thats fine. i hope your kids listen to you and not some strangers on the internet.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/14/2007 10:27:30 PM
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TheX
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ORIGINAL: HAVOC and you cant sit there and say that he has to follow he parents rules. what if his dad (no offense) is like a druggie who is strung out all the time or he beats on him should he still listen to his dad about getting a bike then ? my previous post still holds up. kids do things that piss their parents off and then the parents get over it. TRUE i dont know the OP . might there be more to this situation YOU BET YOUR ASS THEIR IS. THERE IS ALWAYS 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY. but to sit here and say unequivicaly(sp?) that his dad is right he shouldnt own a bike isnt fair. he deserves the right to ride if he wants. he needs to sit down with his dad and work out the other issues that are really causing the problem here and only him and his dad know what those are. Parents house, parents rule, otherwise he can move the hell out...like that would happen. Doesn't matter what the father does, it's his pad. It's a bunch of forum hot air...There will be no bike.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/14/2007 11:10:34 PM
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HAVOC
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ORIGINAL: TheX Parents house, parents rule, otherwise he can move the hell out...like that would happen. Doesn't matter what the father does, it's his pad. It's a bunch of forum hot air...There will be no bike. i guess i was just fortunate enough to grow up in a house where i was allowed to have ideas and opinions on matters that effected me. my parnets never once threatened me with "my house my rules" and in fact me and my parents get along very well and our relationship is one of mutual respect and understanding. i feel sorry for anyone who had to grow up in a house where someone would have the mentality of quote:
Parents house,parents rule, otherwise he can move the hell out Children Learn What They Live -if a child lives with Criticism , he learns to Condemn -if a child lives with Hostility, he learns to Fight -if a child lives with Ridicule, he learns to be Shy -if a child lives with Shame, he learns to feel Guilty -if a child lives with Tolerance, he lerns to be Patient -if a child lives with Encouragement, he learns to be Confident -if a child lives with Praise, he learns to Appreciate -if a child lives with Fairness, he learns Justice -if a child lives with Security, he learns Faith -if a child lives with Approval, he learns to like Himself -if a child lives with Acceptance and Friendship, he learns to find Love in the world.
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