Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH
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Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 4:52:56 PM
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ZJcrawler45
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I'm 19 years old and have been riding quads and bikes for quite a while now, except i have never drove any of them on the road(legally). Now that i want to get a cbr600rr i've sold all my quads and finally have the money for one........Except there's a major problem! My dad says i cannot get one until i am 21 if i live at his house--Which basically means i can't get one until im 21, i'm a college student so moving out is out of the story. He says everyone he knows that has a bike has been in some type of evidence. And he always brings up how many people have died this spring on motorcycles just in out County alone. He also said i need to learn the rules of the road more than what i already know---yet i've been driving a car for 3 years and have had no accidents or even tickets.. I want a bike really bad and it would also save on gas money. I don't know what to do, and i DO NOT want to wait til im 21. It's like just taking away my hobby and it doesn't feel good. I completely understand about how he doesn't want anything bad to happen to me, but i am a responsible person. I think for the most part he's worried about the other drivers on the road... He's told me how many times hes pulled out in front of a bike and not even seen it. He also has cameras in his trucks at work for safety and last summer one truck recorded a motorcycle accident where you could hear him screaming right before he wrecked and later died.
So i guess i'm asking you guys, how can i get my dad to let me have a bike?> Any info and help would be appreciated, i dont know what to do, its what i've wanted for so long and i finally have the cash for one and i get told NO. help And plus i've already bought all my gear and have taken the MSF course, now i have my license.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 4:59:16 PM
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SchiraF4I
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do what i did buy it without them then they will have to grow into it....i wsant aloud to ride mine til i was 18 when i got it 4 months til i turned now that im almost 20 my parents dont care at all
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 5:07:28 PM
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His house his rules- don't like it then move the hell out, too bad, so sad.
That's life- deal with it.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 5:07:54 PM
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Part of it could be you wanted to start on a SuperSport bike........ That could possibly be part of the problem, if its not, then I don't know. If you really think your parents will kick you out if you buy one, then, I guess you are waiting until you are 21 (unless you can somehow talk them into it). Or you can just buy one and see what happens, but wither way, I dont know if supersport it the way to go first off. Its completely different than dirt, trust me.
And with everything you've done with gear and all, it sounds like either someone lied saying you could get a bike, or you really counted your chickens before they hatched.
< Message edited by D2DGraphix_600RR -- 6/12/2007 5:21:30 PM >
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 5:18:54 PM
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If it is what you want do it but when you get hert know why. If i had half the money that i have into my bike i could have had the down payment for a nice house.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 5:21:30 PM
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Parent's house, parent's rules. Move out or suck it up. 19 is a tough age as you are an adult but still living under house rules. No one on the forum can get involved in your family dynamic.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 5:26:09 PM
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You need to understand he is afraind for your safety. He has a good point about you not understanding the rules of the road...it is totally different on your motorcycle than in a cage. Imagine you are totally invisible, and how hard that would be. I would let him see you are safety conscious and take the MSF course. Also, get some books about ridinf skills, safety, etc...and read them. He needs to understand you are mature about being on a bike. Good luck, keep us posted.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 5:34:02 PM
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you could always buy the bike and keep it at a friends house....
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 5:35:26 PM
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NO sympathy here. I agree 100%. I dont think I would allow my 19yr old on any type of modern sportbike, maybe, just maybe a 250, but I doubt it. I am even even of the belief that most young men should not have a bike until they are 25 or older (that is a very, very general statement) but in truth, most teenagers and young men have balls way bigger than their brains. Its just a fact. Ever wonder why insurance is so high on young men? becuase odds are, your balls are going to get you into trouble, be it women, speed, pride, or whatever. Now, I dont need everyone replying about "just cause you did when you were young, or not me, Im a very mature 20yr old" -whatever its just the odds. and a fact of life.
He is also correct, that you may need more time on the road. you been driving 3yrs. Has he said this to you yet "Hell, Ive spent more time backing up than you spent driving forward" That is not at all to say you are a bad driver, or dont know what your doing. but, it does mean that there is alot that you have not seen or experienced yet.
good luck, if you really, really, really want a bike. make him a deal. take half the cash that you have saved for a new bike, and buy a slighty older, less pretty bike, and
buy it for track use only. then take the rest of your cash, and buy some track days and track schools. Then, you can get out and ride your bike, in a safe environment, and learn the right way to ride a bike and go fast, and I garuantee your old man will feel much better about it. He's just worried, he loves you.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 5:46:19 PM
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I had to wait until I was 24 to get my bike. Then my parents gave me $1000 as a down payment because they didn't want me to have to pay so much monthly.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 5:46:55 PM
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I agree, dad's correct. No denying the valid concern for your safety .. just read the daily crash/injury posts on this board alone. Many are by inexperienced newer (to the road) riders. Continue with a dirt bike to get your fix in until you move out .. it'll be worth the wait .. everyone's different but at 19 I personally would've never had the safety consciousness as opposed to say 25.
Now with all that said here's my hypocrite reply ... lol: Note that I don't recommend this, it's just what I did when I was in your situation ... yes I did it and made it okay but I still say waiting would've been better:
I bought a bike without my parents knowledge (paid for all insurance under my name etc.. etc...) and kept the bike stored in a friends garage and just took it out on weekend rides. In retrospect it would've really sucked if I had got in an accident or something and had to explain the lie, but just letting you know that's how I did it.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 5:48:00 PM
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You want an honest answer? If he feels that way then you are screwed........
UNLESS you take the steps to educate him in what YOU are doing, have done, will do, to promote as much safety as you can into riding. Start with a different bike and let him know that it is a better bike to learn on. Not as fast, or whatever. Take the MSF course, then sign up for the advanced course as well. Practice in safe areas such as parking lots or deserted roads if possible.
If you don't take the steps to try and prove that you are a capable and safe rider, he will NEVER change him mind.
My son is 17, and he is one of my best riding buddies, but that is because I trained him. He riders well beyond what anyone would expect a 17 year old to ride and is mature about his riding. I let him ride my CBR on occasion, but the SV 650 is his bike. He also did the last track day with me and did fantastic. If he had the money and wanted to buy his own CBR 600RR, I would probably still tell him to ride the SV a while longer though, just because I KNOW what the bike is capable of.
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 6:37:16 PM
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it's better to ask forgiveness than permission... that's how it always works man. Get the bike, keep it at a friends house and if worse comes to worse and you have to make a decision whether to move out or keep the bike.... make sure you have money saved up cuz apartments are expensive!
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 6:54:09 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: vpsophmore
it's better to ask forgiveness than permission... that's how it always works man. Get the bike, keep it at a friends house and if worse comes to worse and you have to make a decision whether to move out or keep the bike.... make sure you have money saved up cuz apartments are expensive!
+1 lol
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RE: Dad won't let get bike, Says its DEATH - 6/12/2007 7:42:15 PM
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Alot of guys seem to say that just buy it and store it at a friend's house and see what happens. I think this is a terrible idea. Someone said asking for forgiveness is easier than permission, maybe when you are married but with your parents its a totally different story. I know for a fact that if I pulled something like that with my dad he would kick me out, end of story. I don't think its worth it to get kicked out of your house and have your parents pissed off at you to get a bike. Something you have to realize is that your parents aren't out to get you (i know its hard, i'm 19 too). My dad doesn't really have a problem with me riding. However, when I wanted to get an F4i last year, he wouldn't let after he rode one and saw how powerful it was. I ended up getting a Ninja 250 (which I am currently riding) and hopefully I will get in F4i at the end of the season when prices drop. I don't think that any of us can give you the difinitive "right" choice in your situation since nobody knows you or your father. Your best bet might be to tell your dad you will ride an smaller bike for a season or two. What I told my dad was that I would eventually get a bike, regardless of what he said right now. If I did end up getting a bike later one, I would have more money and I would buy the best bike I could get my hands on. Right now, I will get a smaller bike which is much safer and get a bigger bike after I have some experiance. Perhaps the key is to make your dad understand that eventually you will get a bike the only difference is whether you will do it safely or not so safely.
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