Need advice on 125R
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Need advice on 125R - 6/18/2007 12:03:21 AM
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Mistersprinkles
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Hey folks Im in Canada. Currently I drive a scooter, an Aprilia SR50, but I think I'd like to step up the power... and look cooler...
The CBR125R looks interesting but I have some questions if anyone wants to help
1) The tires are super skinny. How's the ride? Why so skinny? What's the deal? How's it handle in the rain?
2) How fast will it go? 120? 140? bout 12 seconds 0-100kph right?
3) What are the maintenance costs like? How often is the scheduled maintenance? What is the average cost for that?
4) What's the torque like? a 125cc 4 stroke sounds like it might slow down a little going up hill..
If you have one would you recommend it? Anything I should know?
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RE: Need advice on 125R - 6/18/2007 11:00:05 AM
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woot
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The 125 is really cheap - that's the big bonus. It is no where near the bike the ninja 250 is... the lack of power is an issue.
Top speed is < 140 and probably more realisitically 120 km/h.
It will get great gas mileage, it will be cheap to insure... it will make a great commuter. It also will be alot of fun to ride hard - without worrying about big speeding tickets.
If I were you AND wanted something cheap I'd consider the 125... but a used 250 would be my money at the moment for an ONLY bike. If I were allowed to have 2, then I'd get the 125.
1) They are skinny because you don't need a wide tire for big HP. The bike will turn in quickly. The narrower tire will resist hydroplanning more than a flatter wider tire. Plus they're cheaper.
2) 120km/h
3) Cheap. No idea. No idea. An oil change costs the same for every bike - this one will save money on tires and chains.
4) It's a 125. It will never be a super sport. It will be fun though. I'd be concerned if you wanted to spend alot of time on the highway - this isn't a highway bike. You can ride it on the highway safely, but it's not going to be joyous. She'll feel really happy at 80-100km/h. This bike was built to be revved... and she'll need revving to go fast. Break-in period could suck.
I'd recommend it is an in town commuter - a twisty road toy - or a second bike. I'd not recommend it for highway trips.
Woot.
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RE: Need advice on 125R - 6/19/2007 5:40:16 AM
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woot
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Where in Canada - have a look around at other dealers - I think there were some left here (NS)
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RE: Need advice on 125R - 6/19/2007 3:39:53 PM
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Mistersprinkles
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lol. And how do I get it to Ontario from NS? With an excruciatingly sore back and ass after a 29 hour ride? :P
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RE: Need advice on 125R - 6/20/2007 9:51:41 AM
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agentofdarkness
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lol. And how do I get it to Ontario from NS? With an excruciatingly sore back and ass after a 29 hour ride? :P
You could throw it in the back of a van or rent a trailer.
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RE: Need advice on 125R - 6/20/2007 11:38:21 AM
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woot
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Some cars and most cruisers are built to have low revs and good torque. Almost all sportbikes are built to be rev happy horsepower machines.
The 125 is certainly built to be rev happy
To shift - rev the hell out of it - ease off the throttle, grab the clutch, bang it into the next gear, ease off the clutch and wrap the throttle :p (That's the rough way to do it - just try to do that gently)
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RE: Need advice on 125R - 6/21/2007 12:00:50 AM
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Mistersprinkles
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so there's a ninja 250? I havent seen it for sale in Canada...
The only Kaw 250 I know of is the ZZR which I understand handles like a horse that's been shot in the leg. With Asthma, on a whiskey bender.
< Message edited by Mistersprinkles -- 6/21/2007 12:01:45 AM >
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RE: Need advice on 125R - 6/21/2007 1:20:55 PM
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canadian125R
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I luckily was able to get my hands on one. My dealer tells me that remaining ones are scarce.
I'm 185lbs and have managed to find 115kph. The wind needs to work with you, not against.
That said, it is a GAS to drive. Honda has achieved their goal with me - I want more power and I know that I'll have to pay for it. Oh well - I could've seen that coming.
This is a GREAT learning machine and to be honest, a totally different experience then driving a scooter. I double dog dare you to move up to large(r) diameter tires.
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RE: Need advice on 125R - 6/22/2007 1:19:03 AM
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Mistersprinkles
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Actually my tires are very fat on my scooter..
http://www.gaalauto.hu/images/aprilia_tipusok_sr_50_ditech_04.jpg
The thing can be tuned, with a new controller computer, to do about 115kph with an upgraded muffler.
Its a 12.5:1 49cc 2 stroke with a compressor is why it can rip like that.
The thing is, I regularly get it up to about 85 and even at that mediocre speed the small diameter of the wheels combined with the scooter's mediocre suspension makes for a rather bouncy ride. Perfectly controllable, but kinda lame.
A friend has one tweaked out do do 130kph with a 70cc cylinder.
The main thing I'm looking for is a combination of 110kmh+ speeds with a very smooth ride that is suitable to long distances of 100 or so kilometers.
I honestly would prefer something in the 250 range- but it has to be a sportbike, and that pretty much sticks me with either the CBR 125R, the ZZR, which is crapp, or the Ninja250R which is hard to find.
I could also get an Aprilia RS125 2T, which is freaking rediculously powerful for what it is (0-100kph in about five seconds or less). It's also built like a tank, and costs over $12 000... whereas a Ninja250 can be had for just over $4000US with everything included... Not that the N250 is as good a bike...
Basically, 115kph is cool with me- but I wanna be able to do it into the wind, going up hill. Honestly I'd like something that has about 25-30Nm of torque and weighs less than 350lbs in a sportbike configuration...
If there are any models I've missed please lemme know...
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RE: Need advice on 125R - 8/17/2007 5:23:35 PM
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Kikn
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The Honda CBR125 will cost you about $4000 USA while those links I provided only costs $600 - $1500.
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RE: Need advice on 125R - 8/25/2007 4:37:20 AM
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dragonlady
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I just bought a cbr 125 2 months ago just passed my course and have only been out on my a couple of times they are great bikes to learn on shifting gears on them is really jerky though. Does not handle well in the wind especially for me because I only weigh 105 pounds. I think I might sell mine because it doesn't feel comfortable to drive. The seats are very uncomfortable for me I just touch flat foot on the ground standing or sitting my legs are in the same position on the bike. The 250 ninja's are a really nice bike you can find them eveywhere here. I live in St thomas ontario Canada. I see them everywhere. I'm not a short person 5'6 I'm a little scared to ride in the rain because they are such a light bike and don't get stuck behind a big truck it will blow you everywhere. My husband drove mine on the highway on a windy day and he weighs 185 pounds and he had problems keeping it from blowing around. I would suggest going with something with more weight to it. I hope this helps a bit
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RE: Need advice on 125R - 8/25/2007 8:19:13 AM
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baileyjn
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Mistersprinkles
Actually my tires are very fat on my scooter..
http://www.gaalauto.hu/images/aprilia_tipusok_sr_50_ditech_04.jpg
The thing can be tuned, with a new controller computer, to do about 115kph with an upgraded muffler.
Its a 12.5:1 49cc 2 stroke with a compressor is why it can rip like that.
The thing is, I regularly get it up to about 85 and even at that mediocre speed the small diameter of the wheels combined with the scooter's mediocre suspension makes for a rather bouncy ride. Perfectly controllable, but kinda lame.
A friend has one tweaked out do do 130kph with a 70cc cylinder.
The main thing I'm looking for is a combination of 110kmh+ speeds with a very smooth ride that is suitable to long distances of 100 or so kilometers.
I honestly would prefer something in the 250 range- but it has to be a sportbike, and that pretty much sticks me with either the CBR 125R, the ZZR, which is crapp, or the Ninja250R which is hard to find.
I could also get an Aprilia RS125 2T, which is freaking rediculously powerful for what it is (0-100kph in about five seconds or less). It's also built like a tank, and costs over $12 000... whereas a Ninja250 can be had for just over $4000US with everything included... Not that the N250 is as good a bike...
Basically, 115kph is cool with me- but I wanna be able to do it into the wind, going up hill. Honestly I'd like something that has about 25-30Nm of torque and weighs less than 350lbs in a sportbike configuration...
If there are any models I've missed please lemme know...
Get the Kawasaki Ninja 250. It is a much praised bike. About 80 miles per gallon I think. You'll get 200 kph out of it at least, though the thing is geared to be comfortable at highway speeds and lower. Very comfortable. The Ninja 250 has been around forever and has not changed its design in like a decade. New ones are only 3 grand US. Used ones can often be found in good condition for $800-$1500 US.
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