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ZJcrawler45
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< Message edited by ZJcrawler45 -- 6/24/2007 4:03:16 PM >
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RE: Took MSF--Total noob class;pointless - 6/23/2007 2:16:30 PM
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Zultan
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Hey I used to be one of those losers who knew nothing :P Patience let the people that are doing this for the learning actually learn, not everyone goes into the course knowing everything.
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RE: Took MSF--Total noob class;pointless - 6/23/2007 2:18:39 PM
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HAVOC
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i took my msf last weekend and i thought it was very benefical not because i didnt know what was being taught but because i look @ any situation with the potential to better myself as a rider. even if it means i have to go back and start from the begining ill doit, just to make myself that much better of a rider.
i feel sorry for people who go into a situation feeling hella cocky and thinking that they cant learn something new or improve on what they already know.
i hope that when you are out riding you take care of yourself ....
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RE: Took MSF--Total noob class;pointless - 6/23/2007 2:20:59 PM
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ZJcrawler45
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oh don't worry, Thats why i took it to; to gain experience and better my riding capabilites......But everything there i can do at my house, i can even make better activities. Put some cones on a street and weave them, thats about it.
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RE: Took MSF--Total noob class;pointless - 6/23/2007 2:29:14 PM
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HAVOC
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so why not go back and take the ERC course (experienced riders course) you get to do everything that the msf course offered but on your bike at higher speeds and more challenging. yea things might seem easy on a 125 ( i had a ninja 250 for the msf class) but its a lil bit different on a bigger bike .
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RE: Took MSF--Total noob class;pointless - 6/23/2007 2:50:01 PM
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 Not a fan of this thread. There are plenty of people who gain life saving experience in these courses. Sure, there are people who seem stupid or uncoordinated at these classes, but do you want them training themselves...do you want them next to you on a ride? There is a beginner class for a reason. Havoc makes a good point, move up to the next class. Your impression of the course would be like saying, "I thought the beginning CPR certification class was lame...bunch of people who don't know how to save lives. I can breathe into my blow up doll at home". I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just feel that you have the wrong attitude about it. But, what the heck, right? We all have opinions, and they are all valid. Maybe go do a track day or something. Until then, understand that that class is the foundation of good riding skills.
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RE: Took MSF--Total noob class;pointless - 6/23/2007 2:52:41 PM
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I felt the same way when I took my msf class. I had been reading posts here for a couple months so I heard everything before the first day. The class is really designed for people who have never been on a bike. Do you have to take the beginner msf to take the experienced version? That would have been so much better for me since I ride a 600 sportbike, not a 250 cruiser.
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RE: Took MSF--Total noob class;pointless - 6/23/2007 2:55:24 PM
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You werent born to know everything about bikes, people gotta start somewhere. i was riding for 1 year, totaled my first bike before i took MSF course. didnt have M1 or Insurance when my wrecked. I was the cocky one when i took MSF, thought i knew everything. did burn out and speeding on the riding range and i got kicked out...i took re-took the course and i learned a lot of things that i didnt learn on the streets. MSF was benefical, i became a better (safe) rider. MSF got me calm down a bit.
hey HAVOC how much for ERC course or Track day? do you know any ERC or any track in Northern Cali?
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RE: Took MSF--Total noob class;pointless - 6/23/2007 3:02:06 PM
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CBRollie1000
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im guessing msf class is the begineer class i took which was free. im afraid to take the erc kaz i might reck my bike i know they try crazy stuff there. well i havent rode in 3 months so i'll take it sometime after i brush up riding again since it is free also.
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RE: Took MSF--Total noob class;pointless - 6/23/2007 3:08:17 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: CBRollie1000
im guessing msf class is the begineer class i took which was free. im afraid to take the erc kaz i might reck my bike i know they try crazy stuff there. well i havent rode in 3 months so i'll take it sometime after i brush up riding again since it is free also.
FREE???? dont know where ya from, but there;s nothing free in california.. i dont mind take ERF tomorrow if its free
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RE: Took MSF--Total noob class;pointless - 6/23/2007 3:15:28 PM
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Every oportunity to learn is a good one.
If you think the MSF basic course was a waste of time... then I'm sorry to say, you wasted your own time, and the learning oportunity. If the class is not challenging enough for you. it isn't meant to be. It's the basic foundation of good riding skills.
Your attitude towards the class is what made you miss out on the oportunity to learn something from it.
How good do you think Michael Jordan would have been, if once he learned how to dunk, he decided that he didn't have to practice free throws anymore (read his book "For the love of the game" and you'll learn that what made him such a great player was the fact that he practiced the basics EVERY DAY (yes, one of the greatest basket ball players of all time, and een when he was at the top of his game he still spent hours practicing basic dribbling drills, and free throws.
Same thing with a motorcycle. You will never be experienced enough that you can't learn something new, or go back and correct some bad habits you may have picked up along the way. Want more info? Pick the brain of your instructors! They are usually teaching the course beacuse they like to, and will be more than happy to share that little bit of extra wisdom with whoever asks for it. Or if you're looking for a challenge, take the Experienced riders course, or go to a track day/racing school.
Yes, any drill they teach on the course you could have done on your own... but then you wouldn't have an instructor who knows what to look for, watching and correcting any mistakes you make. That's what the course offers you that you can't easily get anywhere else, and the fact that is's on a closed, controlled environment, as opossed to trying the drills on a commandeered parking lot, hoping nobody pulls in to park, or worse, trying it on a public road, where you should be watching out for traffic, instead of concentrating on some cones on the floor, or correcting your form.
Sometimes the most important lessons to be learned have nothing to do with what you're being taught, but rather HOW you are being taught...
...food for thought.
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RE: Took MSF--Total noob class;pointless - 6/23/2007 4:21:58 PM
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Typical thread from this person. Pointless and without any merit at all.
Did you get a bike yet?????? No? Hmmmm...
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