RE: attacked again tonite
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/15/2007 10:57:46 AM
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almega
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ORIGINAL: rangerscott
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ORIGINAL: baileyjn
For the guy who chased yuo down with the V8: I recommend you upgrade from the 600 to a literbike.
For the guys hollering at you and fishtailing: A friend of mine always carries a pistol while riding. You might want to get one, and if anyone gives you any trouble, blow out their windshield.
True true. But bullets bounce off of windshields.
What the hell? I hope both of you are joking. You dont have any legal authority to fire on someone unless they are trying to kill you or cause great bodily harm. Only time you could use it would be if you had no way out. I mainly suggest carrying because alot of people will see it and not bother the person because of it.
There is alot of training, red tape, and consequences that go into carrying a gun LEGALLY, and depending on your state you may not be able to. Even if you do use your weapon legally, you can still be sued to death for it.
And please for the love of god dont think for a second that a bullet would bounce off of a windshield lol.
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/15/2007 7:24:52 PM
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ladybug600
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allright guys! i have my gun license and have been shooting for a long time now. thats not gonna help me when i'm on the road hitting a few turns by myself and someone comes up behoind me tosses a milkshake on my head so i'm totally blinded cuz my visor is down and i almost go off the road because i cant get my visor up by the time i hit the next twist........ just ranting and raving is all........ i'm sure many have similar stories. and it gets really frustrating sometimes because you just want to know why someone could be so mean. and thank you to all those guys and girls who responded so nicely.
< Message edited by ladybug600 -- 8/15/2007 7:31:45 PM >
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/16/2007 2:55:05 AM
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bluej511
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Well i was riding back from a friends house sunday around 8ish (been riding for probably a week now haha) and these guy in a sport bike blows right past me and cuts me off by probbaly only a foot, and man was I pissed.
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/16/2007 2:41:18 PM
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ladybug600
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ummm ok
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/16/2007 2:50:49 PM
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bluej511
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Haha well im just a beginner and the guy literally came into my lane right next to me and i had to move a bit i was like wtf.
Its not only car drivers that suck, motorcycle riders can be just as bad.
Well anyways i dont think a gun is going to make much difference but scare everyone on the road and the driver then he'll run you over by ACCIDENT
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/16/2007 4:46:44 PM
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racer212
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Get a gun...  great answer. My answer is to stay cool and use your head to get away. Your bike will out perform anything 4 wheels on the street, learn to use it and the rest is easy. Use the bikes size to your advantage, things like ramps up to a sidewalk are your friend. Get somewhere public.
A gun very rarely helps anything, especially if some asshole has you rattled. In order to be safe, no matter what the circumstance, you gotta cool headed when on two wheels.
That said, I'm not anti-gun. Most of my family are cops, I'm a reserve cop, and I've had a concealed carry permit since age 18, but I never carry on a bike. Just in most circumstances there is a better way, a gun is always always an escalation.
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/17/2007 7:52:13 AM
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almega
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That said, I'm not anti-gun. Most of my family are cops, I'm a reserve cop, and I've had a concealed carry permit since age 18, but I never carry on a bike. Just in most circumstances there is a better way, a gun is always always an escalation.
Having a gun (open carry, not even drawing it) has kept me from getting mugged once, its stopped harrasment at stoplights because they typically see it and wise up, and I've been shown more respect and I've been treated better overall from law enforcement because of it. I'm just reccomending the possibility of open carry, thats all.
<speech from one CHL to another>
Also, if you're not going to carry while on your bike, why even have the permit? Do you only wear your seatbelt or helmet when you think you're going to get into an accident? That one time you dont have your gear or helmet on could be the one time your life ends due to you not having your saftey gear, same thing goes for the gun :) View it as saftey gear! </speech from one CHL to another>
BTW I think your advice about getting to know your bike and being proficcient at it is amazingly valuable. A lighter weight person on a 600cc+ bike is going to be way more manuverable and able to outrun anything on 2 wheels, get proficient with your bike and you'll have less problems. At the very least you should be able to dodge a milkshake from a car!
As for the people on 2 wheels, keep your distance and pay attention to the road, hopefully they will get the message and not hound you. Unfortunately there are many 2 wheel on 2 wheel accidents a year from people that do stupid things like this.
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/21/2007 8:02:34 PM
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josephalter
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I want to firstly say that these guys have gone far beyond the qualifications for declaring them to be stupid and also to be jerks. Someone should drive a tank into their car/truck and crunch up their rides into pieces, making them fear for their lives. And then they should do it again, and again, and again, at totally random moments seperated by hours/days/months until the fear has permeated them to a level that they will never be able to shake.
I also want to say that you may be positioning yourself to look far more sexy than you realize. There is a woman who I'm aquainted with that has got the most amazing body in the world, but she is clueless when it comes to how men react to her appearance. She dresses like a slut and when I talk to her about how nice her (ample) body parts are being shown off to me and everyone else in the office she claims that her dress style is perfectly conservative and it is the norm around the office. It is anything but. Her thong straps are showing 25% of the day and half of her breasts are airing out for all to see. The first thing I noticed about her on sight was the presense of 3 or 4 tatoos which should have been covered up especially for her making the first impressions of everyone around the office. She was clueless and would deny any innapropriateness she would/could be accused of. She daily causes me to curse my existence that does not include her in my bed every night. Some men have overactive desires and can be set off by some skin. Some men act upon them irrationally.
I am not saying you are for sure showing anything like that off, but I'd would bet money on it.
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/22/2007 1:03:57 AM
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Raven
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On one level, you can only try to avoid the milkshakes out there. Nobody has the right to accost you, for any reason. On another level, if one gets cornered, one should have a plan. If I crash, and there's fire, that's a bad place to have a firearm. But...an entourage of Martial Artists who ride could easily be found at a nearby training center, and you could learn skills that could render attacks obsolete. I haven't met a Black Belt yet who's been in a streetfight. There's something about the process of becoming that translates into a universal language that says : "Go mess with somebody else, Punk!"
I've given alot of thought to this, and I have begun to incorporate my CBR with my other weopons of proficiency. I guess I'm pushing Taekwondo, the fastest growing sport in the U.S. Gee, I wonder why. Wish I could do more. My Grandmaster runs several Dojangs in the Louisville, KY (and one in Albuquerque!) area if your interested. Pax,G.
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/22/2007 5:32:44 AM
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twisty
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Geez, Joseph, that was kinda creepy! Sorry the hottie at the office has your panties in such a wad, but I don't know how that really helps the rest of us.... As women at risk of being attacked just for being female everyday of our lives, most of us have learned by now when we can dress sexy and when we can't. I'm guessing that for the vast majority of us on most days, full riding gear is the way to go for practicality reasons because most of us are really just here to ride and not to tempt poor helpless boys into attacking us! Still, it does suck not to be able to just ride up to the store in shorts and a tank top without being harassed or maimed by some random ****....
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/22/2007 8:19:37 AM
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woo545
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Depending on the area, guns are probably not the solution and probably cause more problems then they are worth. Although, based on someone elses comment, if you perceive that your life it being threatened, use of deadly force could be warranted. Just be prepared to deal with the emotional fallout of killing someone.
As for all the men saying "don't dress sexy", all I can say is "whatever." A woman has a right to dress anyway that they want. They shouldn't have to be worried about that jackass on the road that has the brain the size of a peanut. This type of behavior is just as bad as things exhibited in certain third world countries.
I like the solution of riding better. How about helmet cams. Sure it might not do anything to stop it, but if gives you evidence that you can hand over to authorities to hopefully convict someone of assualt. I would recommend that you do things legally in order for someone pointing the finger back at you.
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/23/2007 6:43:41 AM
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Wow..im sorry for you ladies. There is no reason for this to happen to you from anyone. I am a guy, i havent had any problems with cars yet, but i havent been riding for long.(1 year). It really sucks that there are people like this in the world. I dont know what to tell you about the situation. Do most of these occurances happen at night? If they do, i would be more weary about riding at night alone, unless you dont have a choice. My suggestion, just in case things get more out of hand, carry a pocket knife, or a small can of pepper spray, make some sort of handlebar holster for the spray just in case a guy gets out of his car and tries to come at you. I really dont know what else to do, besides get liscence plate #'s and report it.
Im really sorry this happens to you, all of you ladies.
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/25/2007 8:31:08 AM
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dragonlady
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Hey girl sorry to hear about your attacks. Don't let it bother you to much most guys can't handle seeing women on bikes. A lot of times they are jeleous because they don't have one. I'm a new rider myself so I don't go out alone and guns arn't aloud in ontario either but no matter where you live there is always going to be dirt bags out there. Just be careful and ride safe at all times. We have people here who just don't like bikes at all they don't care if it's a man or a women they will cut you off. There has been so many accidents in London ontario where bikers are getting killed because people don't watch out for them like a week ago a cab driver pulled a u turn right in front of the bike and the guy died he had a big touring bike. So just do what you are doing and be safe.
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RE: attacked again tonite - 8/25/2007 9:10:26 AM
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zorgen
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Your life is being threatened and you need to learn how to protect yourself.
Take the following classes:
Basic handgun Safety Class
Introductory Handgun
Defensive Handgun Skills, Levels 1,2 and 3.
Legal Aspects of Armed Self-Defense
Buy a gun as high a caliber that you can handle and get a concealed weapons permit. When people threaten your life you can legally shoot them until they stop moving or are no longer a threat. It's your choice, your life or theirs. Personally, I'd chose my own life over scum.
Join the NRA and support gun rights.
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RE: attacked again tonite - 9/11/2007 8:40:04 AM
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chy.fogle@navy.mil
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so many of you say carry a gun but i feel like that is overkill. i know a bunch of guys that carry marbles in their pocket. just toss it down on the road when the D-bag is behind you and let it bounce up into their wind sheild. the marble will shatter and usually doesnt damage their car too much.. it will get your hint across. i know someone will say how this is a bad idea for whatever reason but so is what these ppl are doing to us on the road...
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