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...the AMA field is filled with people who can't podium a WERA or CCS race.
We don't need people who get lapped before half distance!

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ORIGINAL: woodyracing

Superbike won't be going back to 750cc  what would be the point?   and people say its a suzuki class as it is, if it were a 750 class Suzuki would be the only bike out there literally

WERA, CCS, etc are club racing organizations, meaning they are a step below AMA racing.  The guy is just saying there is a really huge range of riders in AMA Superbike.  The Superbike class is supposed to be a great show, a battle between riders and all that but many times they have to deal with lappers way too early and it affects the racers and the spectators.  Lapping riders is a very difficult situation.  The speed difference can be huge even at that level, obviously the faster rider is probably battling for position and can't waste time getting around them so it usually ends up very very hectic and has changed the outcome of races many times.

for spectators, its very difficult to distinguish bikes as it is, but when your watching the lead group go by and there are 3 lapped riders amongst them its even more difficult to figure out who is who and what position they're in.

The idea that "don't complain unless your that good" is great and all if the issue doesn't affect the sports spectator/media coverage but this does.  There have been quite a bit of major disasters that have affected how the media, fans, and racers themselves view the AMA and their officials so the "leave it alone" approach probably isn't the best method, there are problems and they need to be addressed.  The AMA is trying to get their sh!t together, hopefully the coming years will get better.  Michael Jordan did an interview a couple weeks ago, expressing his views on the AMA and the rules of the classes and pointed out that a lot of it was very unfair to the non-factory teams.  He said he would be glad to do some stuff to promote the AMA if they would come up with something fair but at this point he and the other non-factory teams are basically being screwed by the AMA because the factories basically do whatever the hell they want

personally I would be fine if they kept the classes like they are now but kept the factories out of Supersport/Superstock

Superstock is out as of 2009, so it will most likely be 3 classes unless they add a spec class or a 125 or 250 class

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ORIGINAL: woodyracing

lets not forget Suzuki didn't come out with the GSX-R750 since Superbike went to 1000s, they're just the only manuf to keep it around this long. 

F1 isn't a sprint race, in motorcycle terms its an endurance race.  Their races are around 3x longer than AMA Superbike races so lapped traffic will play a bigger part, as will pit stops (DEFINITELY not something I want to see in Superbike racing)

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ORIGINAL: woodyracing
lets not forget Suzuki didn't come out with the GSX-R750 since Superbike went to 1000s, they're just the only manuf to keep it around this long. 

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ORIGINAL: woodyracing

my wording sucked, my point was that the 750 isn't a new thing that nobody else hasn't caught onto yet, its an old thing that everybody but Suzuki stopped doing

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ORIGINAL: woodyracing

my only point is that, the manufacturers aren't going to want to go back to 750s, for everybody but Suzuki it means creating an entirely new bike just to race in AMA. Considering motorcycle racings lack of popularity over here, the chances of them doing that are virtually one, and honestly I like the 1000s as superbikes.  Anything less than 1000s wouldn't really seem like "Superbikes" to me

Slipper clutches aren't going anywhere and TC is being used on the 600s in the FX class.  Doesn't matter what type of bike your on, anything over 50cc will spin up the rear if you give it enough throttle in the corners.  Ed Bargy (has raced pretty much anything and everything with wheels at just about every level) tells a story of a student of his that raced a Ninja 250 just a few years back.  One of the things he was working with her for was controlling wheel spin on corner exits. 

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ORIGINAL: woodyracing

Ed does a school in the southeast
he teaches that if your not sliding and spinning a little your not going very fast

awesome guy, a little out there sometimes but pretty cool

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ORIGINAL: HAVOC

also dont forget about R7 from yamaha http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/yamaha_yzf-r7_2002.php