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How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/21/2007 7:26:06 AM

dmbnpj

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I've had my F4i for a little over a year now. I can pop the front end up in 1st gear by dumping the clutch. The front end pops up and goes right back down. How can I keep it up?

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RE: How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/21/2007 7:44:29 AM

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Also, the way my 2002 F4i comes up is about 13,000rpms and dumping the clutch. Sees a lot higher than many of you others talking about 6,000rpms? Could there be something wrong with my bike?

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RE: How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/21/2007 8:37:37 AM

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Nothing wrong with the bike just the user. Its all about how you slip or pop the clutch. If your getting the bike up and its not going straight to BP then you need to use the gas to get the bike to BP and rear brake to keep it there. Takes some pratice to get there, so just keep tring and sooner or later you will get it.

If your just going up and down you are slipping the clutch and then letting off the gas(close the throttle). You will quickly find out the higher you go the slower you go and the farther you will go. You will know when you hit BP the bike will be floaty and will take not extra throttle to stay up(you will stay at a constant speed)

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RE: How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/21/2007 8:47:50 AM

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Thanks for the reply.
Yah, that must be the problem, closing the throttle once it pops up. I guess I am nervous letting it get too high too quick. I feel like I'm going to flip over backwards. I have gotten in the habit of covering the rear brake but I haven't had to use it because it just pops up and then goes right back down. Again, must be because I am releasing the throttle. Should it be fairly easy to keep it up in first gear or should I be trying to pop it up in second?
I've seen others pop a wheelie going at least 50mph. Im wondering how do they do that?

Thanks again

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RE: How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/21/2007 11:33:03 AM

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screw that first gear shyt... your problem is just getting over the fear of being over the hump. and to do a wheelie at highway speeds... ya just gotta be in the right gear, and depending on what ya got for sprokets...

goodluck, dont loop it

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RE: How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/21/2007 12:11:40 PM

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Yeah i have a problem keeping it up too. I'm still stock and i can power it up in first or clutch it up but as soon as I get up thier I ease off the clutch and comes right back down. I'm not even letting off the throtle very much either. I can ride wheelies good on dirt bikes and four wheelers though. I don't know what the problem is.

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RE: How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/21/2007 1:12:09 PM

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My bike is also stock. Im guessing in 2nd gear to do a wheelie you do the same thing.....pull clutch in/rev rpms up/dump the clutch?

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RE: How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/21/2007 3:57:43 PM

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Its definately not the bike I am 225lbs and was killin it on a bone stock 01 f4i .My best advice is PRACTICE,PRACTICE, PRACTICE.....THEN PRACTICE SOME MORE !after that,practice some more .....and so on.remember that most people that have been doin this awhile practiced their ass off and probley tore their bikes all to hell,so if your shit is MINTY,take the plastics off and get a powersstuntworx cage.....it will save you money. oh yeah, GET HEATH INSURANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/22/2007 8:52:29 AM

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Yea, practice is your best friend. I have only been riding for 5 or so months, but I ride everyday and endlessly practice everything I do. I even ride in the rain to practice and to get the feel of the bike on wet roads just in case I'm in a bad spot and need to ride in the rain for a real reason other then I'm stupid and want to.

I learned to start riding a wheelie by simply powering up first and getting used to floaty front end. After a little bit of that, I just used throttle control to keep the front wheel off the ground while still under power(no were near BP). So you come up around 20-30 and go down around 70. That takes maybe a city block when your just using power to keep it up. After I did that for a while, I started to power up to my normal spot and then give it just a tad more gas. Just remember when you think your at BP your more then likely not, your still aways away. If you are in first you have engine braking to help slow you down and bring the front down if your rear brakes skills are not there yet. If you can ride out first all the way to red line, then start trying to clutch em up. Don't pop the clucth just slip it and give the bars a tug or the bike a bounce.

When I bought my 12 bar(just to have it at first didn't really need it) that helped a ton with learning how far back it really is. I put my bike at 12 in my drive way and just sat there with it. You learn a lot sitting like that.

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RE: How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/24/2007 6:58:45 PM

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Been reading that powering up is too dangerous to start out. Plus, my bike cant seem to do it. Ive rolled on throttle in 1st all the way to flooring it and it wont come up.

Also, what is a 12 bar?

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RE: How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/24/2007 8:36:06 PM

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power wheelies while hurt your ass,I recomend not doing them.If you must know thou, what I did on my first bike was roll on the throttle in first to about 6 grand, back off a little then slightley push down then pull up (preload the suspension) as I opened the throttle back.Dude it is so easy to loop like this DON'T DO IT!!!! just throttle up about 5 or 6 grand slip the clutch and preload the suspension at about the same time and it will come up.keep on the throttle until the front end feels like it is floating this is called balance point.You probley arent going to hit it for awhile its scary as hell the first few times.also keep your foot accessable to the rear brake.If you r going to high hit the rear brake to bring you down.but you have to remember to pull the clutch in before you hit the ground if not you will go over the handle bars...that sux,most of the time the bike runs over your ass. you don't need to worry about the 12 bar right now but it is for scrapeing the tail and not tearing your tail section up, that is for stunt vets only thou. check out stuntlife.com but be carefull its addictive. this post is just a guidline I'm no teacher this is just to help u out a little, please be carefull,always ride with someone else,wear the damn helmet too. oh my god I sound like my old man

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RE: How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/24/2007 10:30:22 PM

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hahahaha neil! whats the deal man im fixin to get my fork seals done, seeing how i have brake control now i can stop wrecking! do u have a bike yet to stunt

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RE: How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/25/2007 12:06:52 PM

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Try viagra!!!

Try clutching it up about 100 times in a row, going a little higher and a little more every time you get comfy, the pros clutch it up 300 times a day to stay with it....

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RE: How to keep a wheelie up? - 7/26/2007 8:12:46 PM

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how quickly will this wear out a clutch? im on an 04 1000RR and i have no problem powering it up in 1st and clutching it up in second. second is much cmoother but at highway speeds 70-90mph. a bit fast i would like to know how to ballance in first a little better. and any tips on getting fomfortable with stand ups' i only do sit downs. and how do you steer a wheelie? lots of q's.

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