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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/21/2007 12:40:30 PM

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You did very well Blue1000F and looked very calm and had no problems on the track. The first time I did a track day, convinced I could drive, nearly scared the shit out of me when I realised how different is was to road driving and linited lean angles.

The trip yesterday started quite exiting already from take off at work. The road was open and perfectly clear so there were no security issues at all and the sun was shining. Perfect conditions for WOT.

Far away at the end of a long downhill slope I could see some white thing beside the countryside road so I went off the throttle and began to let the bike slow down by itself. When I was quite near I could see that is was just some type of working van and what looked like to be two workers staying beside. Not until I just passed them I could see the old type radar on a low tripod stand. The speed was then 87 km/h on the 90-road according to the calibrated bicycle computer. Gosh, it was so near that I gave full throttle when I was 95 % convinced they were no cops. The earlier written warning has definitely helped to think and watch up.

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/23/2007 12:16:01 PM

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A short vid were the bird comes on inner line and lift the front slighly on 3rd before backing of throttle. The outer bike couldn't overtake and that felt quite good :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F81tImbS-aE

Another with a little more pace. First a blue bike and quite a gap to the bird that comes second and two red bikes behind the bird. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEan00sdwMk

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/24/2007 12:21:49 AM

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In your track rules can you over take on the in side. It does feel good to out accelerate your opposition.

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/24/2007 12:38:15 AM

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Yes is felt damn good to make a gap even though he came close again into the next curve. It happened several times that I could see another bike trying to overtake after a curve and it just disappeared behind when going WOT. The bike pulls good enough and it is me that has to practice a lot more in corners etc.

Is there a general rule that overtaking is allowed on the side where you will be on inner lane to the next curve? I have never thought about it. On the specific track they said - pass on left on the home straight and to the right on the back straight. The home straight ends with a left turn and the back straight ends with a left turn.

On other tracks like e.g. the Nurburg Ring is was said that you are only allowed to overtake on the left, perhaps this rule is specific for tracks where the public is allowed to attend.

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/24/2007 12:45:13 AM

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The track at Linkoping Motorstadion where we drove the last time,had different over take rules.
We where three separate groups,newbeginner,average and race group.
In the newbeginner group i drove in,you could over take on the outside on one straight and on inside on another straight.
In the race group the over take was aloud anywhere (if i remember correct).
I dont remember the rules for average group.

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/24/2007 12:56:35 AM

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It was the same in the average group as in the beginners group.

It was new to me though; on Gelleråsen you can overtake on any side and anywhere as long as you don't cross the line of the guy in front to near during practice. The only limitation is that slower groups are not allowed to overtake in corners. In real competition I guess it is more or less up to you as long as you don’t crash into others bikes.

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/26/2007 1:07:33 AM

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It warms my heart to hear the credits of my old bike, thanks for that.
Blue, what was your impressions of track racing?
I will take the FJR on track for the first time now this wednesday in Falkenberg and I am a little bit concerned about the riding position and possibitity to lean the bike. I raced with a Porsche last week and in a highway exit I scraped the right footpin. First time for me. Not even on track I did this with the CBR.
Funny, the Metzeler roadtech Z6 have small elephants at the edge of the tire which allows you to see how far out on the tire you have traveled. On the right side I am now all the way out. On wednesday it will be the same on the left side.
However the discussion on this board made me think about why the textile clothes is not allowed on certain tracks. I searched on the net and it seems that leather is more safe mainly because the hard pieces inside the suit cant move around during an accident like it can on the more loosely fit textile. Also on a reletively cheap textile suit, a travel along the ground will burn a hole. I now feel that I have to invest in a leather suit especially during track days.

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/26/2007 1:42:00 PM

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Hi rhino94 !
Like i said earlier, a bit scary at first.The first round i went out with my group was to check out the others(the girl in front of me) and se how they ride thrue the corners, i learnt a lot from her riding ( i mean driving the bike thrue corners...

).After a couple of laps i felt more and more comfortable so i decided to outrun her on a long straight, that was no problem with my stronger bike.
The second time i was out i felt really comfortable, the chickenstripes are almost gone.You can see a little bit of the "elephant" left but the next time they're gone.I did not realize how much you can lean down a bike before i went on a track, they got amazing grip the Roadtech's.This is a very good experience for any biker to go to a trackday if the opportunity is given and it's really safe riding.
Maybe R1000 and i will visit the track again next week but it depends if we can get away from work.
It was nice to hear from R1000 that the bike i bought from you is in good condition cause i didn't have anything to compare with. It was so long ago i did active riding...about 8-9 years.
Nice that you haven't forgotten about us here at CBRForum.

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/27/2007 1:29:27 PM

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Please notify me if youre going again, Im planning on buying a leather suit so I can join.
When, where? in that case?

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/27/2007 2:02:51 PM

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We'll let you know,would be fun if you joined. Just have to make it close...bye the way how far is Linkoping for you ?
Planning to go the 3 Sept. but the weather might stop it. Not fun (scary) go riding when it's raining and you know how much you lean down the bike at the track.

I think there's one more trackday another two weeks ahead.
At the track in Linkoping some drivers in the newbeginner group drove with "Gore-tex", i think it was allowed in that group.

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/27/2007 2:23:14 PM

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If you read this Mikepop, Is the track i Älvdalen (Monzta) shutdown for biker activities ?
What i understand you had some trackdays till this summer ?

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/27/2007 2:34:46 PM

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I'm not able to go to Sviestad next monday as planned, I have to be in Stockholm.

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/27/2007 3:40:56 PM

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It´s MikeKop...not Pop... And yes, sadly, my "almost neighbor to" track was shut down as a motorcycle track in the late part of June. This was accheived mainly by some recreational-house owners from Stockholm and Göteborg, with weird rules about sound levels and some help of some fishing experts who claimed that bike riding on the track (it´s located next to a river) was disturbing the sex-life of the fish in the river...

I had maximum 5 minutes drive to that track...

I would love to ride on a track with you other "Hurricane guys", but Linköping is too far, 500 km oneway. In my case, Gelleråsen would fit better. Probably not doable this year, but maybe next year?

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/27/2007 10:07:56 PM

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Sorry about the "nick" MikeKop !

They must hate motorvehicles those people...makes me so angry.

We are planning to go to Gelleråsen, R1000 and i, a couple of times next year. Would be great to meet up.

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RE: Bird tested on track - 8/28/2007 1:00:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: BLUE1000F

We'll let you know,would be fun if you joined. Just have to make it close...bye the way how far is Linkoping for you ?
Planning to go the 3 Sept. but the weather might stop it. Not fun (scary) go riding when it's raining and you know how much you lean down the bike at the track.
I think there's one more trackday another two weeks ahead.
At the track in Linkoping some drivers in the newbeginner group drove with "Gore-tex", i think it was allowed in that group.

It´s 224.51 km so no problemo
I wont go in textile suit now that I got the danger with it on my mind, Im planning on buying a Arlen Ness in the blocket.

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