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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 7/28/2007 12:46:45 AM

TK954RR

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Yea i cut mine out in like 1 minute (leave the wires) as far as i know no downfall other then the bike is a bit louder at low rpm's.

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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 7/28/2007 6:11:20 PM

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koo thanks, louder is always better

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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 7/29/2007 6:18:57 AM

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when i got my bike, it never hesitated...until i put a slip on. then when i changed the filter to the k&n it doesnt do it anymore. as far as the flapper...doesnt that help with the choke, or starting of the bike???

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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 7/29/2007 2:44:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: beckpack

when i got my bike, it never hesitated...until i put a slip on. then when i changed the filter to the k&n it doesnt do it anymore. as far as the flapper...doesnt that help with the choke, or starting of the bike???

koo thanks i was thinkin of getting a k&n anyways, isnt choke in carb bikes? and as far as i know 954 is fuel injected? and fuel injected bikes dont have choke or i dont know what the f im talkin about lol.

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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 7/29/2007 3:36:33 PM

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yeah, dont know why i used the word choke...sorry. but i always thought that the flapper controled the air flow going into the motor when starting the bike. not really sure. tk would probably know. but if there are no downfalls, i might cut mine also. all i know is that changing my filter opened it up eneough to fix my problem....hope it will help you also.

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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 7/29/2007 3:37:03 PM

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o not this again, yes the 954 is fuel injected and k&n airfilter is not goin to do anything about hesitation that you are going to notice.. hesitation could be a lot of different things

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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 7/30/2007 8:09:07 AM

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i agree...i fixed mine with the pcIII and why you guys are saying its the airbox?

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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 7/30/2007 1:18:33 PM

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dont know...i never put a pc in mine yet, all i know is that is what fixed mine. i would bang the throttle, and it would wait. once i changed filter, it stopped. maybe i just got lucky. ill have a pc soon, maybe that will change something else.

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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 7/30/2007 7:44:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: joey954rr

i agree...i fixed mine with the pcIII and why you guys are saying its the airbox?

No one said its the airbox, i said that my hesitation improved "slightly" after removing the flapper in the airbox. I mentioned it because it takes very little time, costs no money, and it may help "slightly". Never did i say it was a cure.

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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 7/31/2007 7:27:41 PM

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The intake valve (flapper) is not supposed to be opened until 8,000 rpm. This is also when the EGCV is at the 180 deg mark. Removing the intake valve will cause a lean fuel mixture. Unless you have the bike custom tuned, this is not an advisable action.

Also, a choke is restricting the air flow thus choking it out. The idea is to start the motor with a rich mixture.

How many miles are on the bike? How far from stock is it? That you know of, what has been done to the bike? As stated, there are many variables to work with. The FI light, or the MIL (next to the left signal indicator on the cluster) is not blinking is it?

How many times have you killed the bike when starting? Are you clutching first or throttle first?

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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 7/31/2007 8:16:00 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CBRinPDX

The intake valve (flapper) is not supposed to be opened until 8,000 rpm. This is also when the EGCV is at the 180 deg mark. Removing the intake valve will cause a lean fuel mixture. Unless you have the bike custom tuned, this is not an advisable action.

Also, a choke is restricting the air flow thus choking it out. The idea is to start the motor with a rich mixture.

How many miles are on the bike? How far from stock is it? That you know of, what has been done to the bike? As stated, there are many variables to work with. The FI light, or the MIL (next to the left signal indicator on the cluster) is not blinking is it?

How many times have you killed the bike when starting? Are you clutching first or throttle first?

see thats what i was told that is why i got the pcIII...but he told me i could not do that intill i got the tune...

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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 8/1/2007 2:41:16 PM

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Joey,
It would not make sense to custom tune the bike (dyno tune) before making the modifications...
unless this guy is doing the tuning for you and just charges a flat rate until the bike is setup the way you want it. Otherwise you'd be paying for unnecessary dyno work.

And people messing with the EGCV... by disabling the servo you are actually doing an injustice to your bike. This system is set up to provide a specific flow depending on the RPM. The servo moves at 3,000 & 8,000 RPM. I have talked with a local Honda sponsored rider and a tech at Erion who both advised NOT messing with this system UNLESS you have a high end racing system on your track/race bike. (Which I assume you will have other items besides exhaust, K&N, and PCIII installed on the bike.)
I'm not saying this is absolute, just that I trust their experience.

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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 8/1/2007 3:37:46 PM

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damn. it sounds like you know what your talking about. good thing i never cut that flapper.

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RE: 02 954rr hesitates from a complete stop..... - 8/1/2007 6:38:48 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CBRinPDX

Joey,
It would not make sense to custom tune the bike (dyno tune) before making the modifications...
unless this guy is doing the tuning for you and just charges a flat rate until the bike is setup the way you want it. Otherwise you'd be paying for unnecessary dyno work.

And people messing with the EGCV... by disabling the servo you are actually doing an injustice to your bike. This system is set up to provide a specific flow depending on the RPM. The servo moves at 3,000 & 8,000 RPM. I have talked with a local Honda sponsored rider and a tech at Erion who both advised NOT messing with this system UNLESS you have a high end racing system on your track/race bike. (Which I assume you will have other items besides exhaust, K&N, and PCIII installed on the bike.)
I'm not saying this is absolute, just that I trust their experience.

yes the guy that did my work did it all at the same time from intake to exhaust....i trust those tpro riders too but my bike is so quick the way it is set up....

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