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STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/26/2007 5:29:44 PM

jwp6114

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I just cant get comfortable with stand ups on this bike, i had started trying them on my 600 with -1,+2 and was kinda getting the hang of it, but with this 1000RR i just have'nt ever been close to comfortable to advance with them. any advice?

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/26/2007 9:25:41 PM

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Try staggered, try both front pegs, if its comin up too fast try a higher gear. Or find the happiest combo for you and just do baby steps. I have had a few probs with certain things, i would just go to a empty lot and practice it 200 times a day, just going a bit more everyday. Next thing ya know a week or 2 later i would have it, and doing it at your own pace is much safer then just trying to rip it up when your heads not ready for it.

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/26/2007 10:14:49 PM

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i would agree. i have stock gearing so first gear is even too fast for most parking lots. i usuly practice on well known empty back roads. 1st gear sit downs almost ballance at about 30-50 mph. 2nd gear sit downs on highway are real smooth and almost ballance for a long distance around 75-90mph. a bit too fast.

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/27/2007 10:02:38 PM

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no stunt will ever feel comfortable in the beginning. you just gotta go for it.

you wont be able to learn new tricks if you stay in your safety zone.

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/28/2007 12:59:57 AM

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quote:

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you wont be able to learn new tricks if you stay in your safety zone.

I respectfully disagree

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/28/2007 8:37:35 AM

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so if you have a guy who wants to scrape really bad, but hes afraid to bring his bike up to the point where he cant see the road infront of him....... then how will he learn?

the same thing goes for the track. if a rider wont drag his knee because he is afraid of crashing. or lean into a turn instead of sitting neutral on his bike.....then he probably wont learn unless he gets out of his safety zone.

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/28/2007 6:06:58 PM

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I think what SoRad is tryin to say is you gotta get outta your "comfort zone", you know where you feel all warm and fuzzy and you're just happy to be ridin? If you haven't pushed yourself, then you won't get better and learn new limit's. I agree however that you must know your own limits, and stay within your safety zone, but I also agree that sometimes if you wanna learn to ride more aggressive you just gotta say f***k it, and get outta that comfort zone..step it up, and go big or go the f***k home.

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/28/2007 9:16:18 PM

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Maybe it was just the wording, i dunno, hard to really explain. But for everything i have learned i never left what i felt to be my comfort zone. Yes it took me longer then some people care to wait, but i just took baby steps for every trick or even track experience i had. IMO you can take it slow and baby step, what happens is your comfort level progresses higher and higher so that you are doing better but still are in that zone. I am not completely disagreeing or trying to say your wrong, nor do i think this is the best or fastest way to learn, i just think its another option.

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/29/2007 8:10:00 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SoRAD

so if you have a guy who wants to scrape really bad, but hes afraid to bring his bike up to the point where he cant see the road infront of him....... then how will he learn?

the same thing goes for the track. if a rider wont drag his knee because he is afraid of crashing. or lean into a turn instead of sitting neutral on his bike.....then he probably wont learn unless he gets out of his safety zone.

i respectfully agree

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/29/2007 11:07:30 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Err

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoRAD

so if you have a guy who wants to scrape really bad, but hes afraid to bring his bike up to the point where he cant see the road infront of him....... then how will he learn?

the same thing goes for the track. if a rider wont drag his knee because he is afraid of crashing. or lean into a turn instead of sitting neutral on his bike.....then he probably wont learn unless he gets out of his safety zone.

i respectfully agree

the main reason my bike is so trashed right now is because i rode out of my comfort zone for so many days and wrecked so many times that i broke all kinds of shit now my fork seals are almost done and im ready to go back at it, i really wanna learn coasters by the fall. sometimes u just gotta say **** it and rock the shit, i believe darius said "when you stunt at first nothing is gonna feel right but u just gotta push thru that, sometimes u just gotta rock it"

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/29/2007 2:14:01 PM

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Darius also had rich parents to help with the relief efforts after huge wrecks.

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/29/2007 6:59:11 PM

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if youre worried about wrecking your bike find a new hobby.

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/29/2007 8:13:19 PM

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Darius also had rich parents to help with the relief efforts after huge wrecks.

darius may come from a wealthy fam... but they dont bail him out. thats one of the most popular bandwagons people like to jump on.

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/30/2007 7:26:25 AM

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exactly. and money cant buy skill or the balls to pull some of the shit he does money just grants him the time he needs to get better. it was his choice to spend time getting sick

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RE: STAND UP"S HELP!!! - 7/31/2007 11:55:44 PM

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quote:

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Maybe it was just the wording, i dunno, hard to really explain. But for everything i have learned i never left what i felt to be my comfort zone. Yes it took me longer then some people care to wait, but i just took baby steps for every trick or even track experience i had. IMO you can take it slow and baby step, what happens is your comfort level progresses higher and higher so that you are doing better but still are in that zone. I am not completely disagreeing or trying to say your wrong, nor do i think this is the best or fastest way to learn, i just think its another option.

I know what both of you are saying, your comfort zone has grown with your baby steps. But most of the time learning stunts you have to leave your comfort zone if not on purpose, on accident to learn the shit. I learned where balance point was by accidentally going out of my comfort zone, as I am sure that is how it happens with most people. Some peoples comfort zone is bigger then other peoples, thats why I am in a town with a bunch of wanna be power wheelieing bastards when I am doing spreaders downtown. Because I am not a pussy and had to say, if i want to learn spreaders I have to
1. sit on the tank ( most people are scared to even do that)!!!
2. spread my legs (don't even think about it you homo's)
3. clutch it up ( most people are scared to do that)!!!
4. nod at the bitches while doing it ( most people do that anyways )
Inside the warm and cozy comfort zone isn't the place to stay when you are going to stunt. But you can't go being all crazy and dangerous and shit, thats how I wrecked my bike.... hope that helped somebody...later
so if you are not willing to leave your comfort zone a little at a time then screw it you may as well quit.

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