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01 f4i won't start - 11/15/2005 5:37:01 PM

arc_55

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alright guys so i finally put my bike away for winterization this past sunday. I put the bike up on stands and had completed the last matience needed before i were to put the bike cover on. I had it running for about 5 mins or close to ten and then i turned it off. I then ran to the gas station to get gas to top up the tank. I came back and topped up the tank and shortly after put in the fuel stabalizer. I then tried to start it but it wouldn;t start. The engine cranks over fine, but it seems like its not getting spark or fuel. I had it running just 10 mins before this so i am not sure what problem could have occured. Do u guys have any idea what it might be? i would like to be able to start it and run it so that the stabalizer can run through and also have peace in mind so i am not worrying all winter till spring hits. thanks!

Any help would be appreciated

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/15/2005 10:44:18 PM

shraz

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u sure u didnt switch off the fuel line?

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/15/2005 10:45:52 PM

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Just to eliminate the obvious, and since I don't know your history are you sure it's in neutral and the kill switch is on run? Since you ran it for 5 minutes and considering it is an 01 it might be time to replace the battery.

Also where are you located that you have to store your bike so early. Here in ohio we have been known to have 60 degree days in December. I hope we have many.

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/16/2005 3:29:35 AM

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just retrace your steps and act as if your undoing your winterization project also you said your bike is on stands right depending on your stands is there anyhow you might have unplugged maybe the ignition wires under the nose by accident?

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/16/2005 6:27:31 AM

doncollins

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very odd... gremlins all around us. Like 05Tribal said, I'd check the battery with a multi meter. Did you have any thing happen while you were putting it up on the stands? Like a hard jolt or near drop that may have tripped the tilt sensor?

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/16/2005 5:24:37 PM

arc_55

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quote:

ORIGINAL: shraz

u sure u didnt switch off the fuel line?

I didn't do anything drastic to the bike for something like that to happen.

quote:

ORIGINAL: 05Tribal

Just to eliminate the obvious, and since I don't know your history are you sure it's in neutral and the kill switch is on run? Since you ran it for 5 minutes and considering it is an 01 it might be time to replace the battery.

Also where are you located that you have to store your bike so early. Here in ohio we have been known to have 60 degree days in December. I hope we have many.

I know the bike is in neutral and the kill switch is on run. Thats the first thing i checked when it wasn't starting. I am located in southern ontario in canada, man does it suck. It's not snowing or anything but strong cold winds and its about to hit zero soon for sure!!

Now that u mention the battery i practically killed the battery trying to start it, however i did charge it and tried it again but the bike was still doing the same thing.

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ORIGINAL: corderpounder88

just retrace your steps and act as if your undoing your winterization project also you said your bike is on stands right depending on your stands is there anyhow you might have unplugged maybe the ignition wires under the nose by accident?

It could be possible, but i highly doubt it! Although my front stand does pick up from the middle of the tripple tree i will check the harnesses in that area.

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ORIGINAL: doncollins

very odd... gremlins all around us. Like 05Tribal said, I'd check the battery with a multi meter. Did you have any thing happen while you were putting it up on the stands? Like a hard jolt or near drop that may have tripped the tilt sensor?

I know wat are they doing to me

!!! Well the battery is fine i know that for sure and i have made sure the battery was fully charged and the engine cranks over fairly quick or normal so i know the battery is in perfectly healthy state. The only one thing i did was when the bike was up on stands i sprayed chain lube on the chain guard and then clicked it down into first for the wheel to turn. I did this a few times but once or twice i forgot that the kickstand was down. Thats about the only fault i had the whole time. Shortly after i had it running for that 5 min duration.

THANKS FOR THE REPLIES SO FAR

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/16/2005 7:53:47 PM

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I see the next suggestion coming in the form of "what about the kick stand safety". If the bike is truning over, it's not the safety switch.

Hell, I'm at a lost for suggestions. It sounds like you know what you're doing and already checked the simple things we are coming up with. Let us know if you get it.

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/16/2005 8:45:52 PM

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hmm not the kill switch or it wouldnt even turn over, same for the kicstand safety switch when you had to start it did you have the charger on it at the time if so you might have blown the fuse to the fuel pump or the ignition circuit i would check all the fuses in the block.then i would take all the plugs out clean them off turn it over with no plugs in it just to get all the old fuel out then put them in and start it if that dont work ill have to get back to you.

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/16/2005 9:38:11 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: doncollins

I see the next suggestion coming in the form of "what about the kick stand safety". If the bike is truning over, it's not the safety switch.

Hell, I'm at a lost for suggestions. It sounds like you know what you're doing and already checked the simple things we are coming up with. Let us know if you get it.

I am going to run through the basicis tommorrow once again and check out minor things, but ur right it does turn over and battery is 100% feels like fuel or spark to me.

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hmm not the kill switch or it wouldnt even turn over, same for the kicstand safety switch when you had to start it did you have the charger on it at the time if so you might have blown the fuse to the fuel pump or the ignition circuit i would check all the fuses in the block.then i would take all the plugs out clean them off turn it over with no plugs in it just to get all the old fuel out then put them in and start it if that dont work ill have to get back to you.

Alright well i have to put in the engine fogger anyways so i am gonna have to get in there regardless. I will check to see if each cyclinder is getting spark and if even fuel is getting into the cyclinders. I have checked over some fuses already, but i will be sure to inspect all of them so i know its not a small problem such as that.

I am gonna get working on it tommorrow so i will post once i have looked everything over. Hopefully i can fix it or atleast narrow it down to something. After that i can refer to the service manual and possibly get some information out of there. I will keep you guys updated and once again thanks for the help!

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/17/2005 1:49:29 AM

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you know I actually had the same problem just the other week. The bike was running fine and then I parked it on the garage as I normally do and the next day I went out and it wouldn't start. The bike was turning over fine. I called Honda and the guy said to just replace the battery and see if that works. So I bought the battery (he also said I can return it if that doesn't work so I said "why not") and took it home and changed that sucker out and it did the trick. Mine is an '01 as well. Have you changed your battery at all since new? this was the first time I had to do it and it worked. Somtimes something really simple could be the problem. I say give it a shot and if that isn't it you can just go return it and get your money back. Its better than doing a whole bunch of random stuff to try to figure out the problem.

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/17/2005 1:51:01 AM

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oh and btw, I charged the battery to full with the yuasa tender and even though it said it was full, the bike still didn't start. I was like "man this can't be the battery, its frickin full!" but the guy was right.

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/17/2005 4:43:28 PM

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oh and btw, I charged the battery to full with the yuasa tender and even though it said it was full, the bike still didn't start. I was like "man this can't be the battery, its frickin full!" but the guy was right.

Well i dunno how that works, how would one battery work and not another? Did he give u any reasoning? I am hoping he did and u just didn;t run to the dealership for the battery just cuz he said so. I mean hey if it works thats awsome!! I am the third owner of the bike and i am most postive its the original battery.

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/17/2005 9:32:57 PM

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Dude, the reason his original battery didn't work and the new battery did is because the original battery was worn out and it would not put out enough power to start the bike. The charging system on motorycycles is not like cars. Don't ask me shy but they do not show the same symptoms when the battery is starting to go like slow engine turn over.

And why not go buy a battery to trouble shoot the problem when the seller said he would take it back if the old battery was not the problem?

And why in the world would you not give consideration what an experienced shop tech might suggest about fixing your bike? Why waste your time and go through the trouble of asking us if you aren’t going to consider a professionals opinion? If that is your thinking then I wouldn't listen to us amateurs.

I better stop this post now. I don't know why but I'm starting to get upset.

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/17/2005 10:06:27 PM

doncollins

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ummm ... good points Tribal. Might look into anger management though

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RE: 01 f4i won't start - 11/17/2005 10:30:38 PM

arc_55

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ORIGINAL: 05Tribal

Dude, the reason his original battery didn't work and the new battery did is because the original battery was worn out and it would not put out enough power to start the bike. The charging system on motorycycles is not like cars. Don't ask me shy but they do not show the same symptoms when the battery is starting to go like slow engine turn over.

And why not go buy a battery to trouble shoot the problem when the seller said he would take it back if the old battery was not the problem?

And why in the world would you not give consideration what an experienced shop tech might suggest about fixing your bike? Why waste your time and go through the trouble of asking us if you aren’t going to consider a professionals opinion? If that is your thinking then I wouldn't listen to us amateurs.

I better stop this post now. I don't know why but I'm starting to get upset.

Alright someone needs to relax! I asked the reasoning behind it, i didn;t rip the guys head off about it. I know alot when it comes to cars so i can relate alot of it towards bikes. I am considering what he is saying i just wanted to hear the reasoning. I have to take the tank off anyways to put in engine fogger so i might aswell look out for the problem at that time. I appreciate all the help and i am not trying to sound like am not considering anything posted. Thanks once again and i haven;t had time to work on it but i will in the next 2 days so i will keep you guys updated.

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