Whats so wrong with power wheelies?
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Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 7/31/2007 4:58:04 PM
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wellarmedCr@cker
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I've been doing the power wheelie thing just trying to get used to the feel of the front coming up and I'm starting to get the hang of it. Then I wan't to move up to clutching it up in second and going longer. But the more I read the more I see peeps saying it's a bad thing. Other than the potential for looping what's wrong with power wheelies? Sorry for the noob question, but I'm a wheelie noob.
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RE: Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 7/31/2007 10:13:27 PM
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SoRAD
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its 10 times easier to loop a power wheelie. if someone is new to wheelies, its obviously not the way you want to start out. beginners dont have the control to bring the bike back off of the tail at 60+ mph
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RE: Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 7/31/2007 11:11:47 PM
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twistatech
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I tell everybody to learn how they want to do wheelies whatever way they feel comfortable. But once you get the hang of the wheel coming up naturally you are going to have to progress to clutching. Power wheelying isn't really that bad if your not going that high but once you start getting near balance point is when it gets sketchy. Your bike is lifting the front wheel under pure acceleration so when it comes the the balance point what are you going to do, you can't let off because the bike will slam down, and it takes a experienced rider to feel the point and start letting off to get it to actually balance from a power wheelie. Not to mention if you don't know anything about balance point your just going to stay in the throttle and the bike will be on top of you in a heart beat. That is why they are dangerous. On the flip side clutching get the wheel up initially close to balance point with little or minimal acceleration, and you can play with the throttle to get on balance point relatively easy. Noobs ( and remember we all used to be noobs , all these cocky guys on here used to be noobs at one time) always think that clutching is way more dangerous because of the looping your bike factor. And it is if you don't practice right and build up to a reasonable clutch wheelie the right way. Take it small and slow you will lift the wheel higher and higher everyday. And don't worry about asking noob questions because that is what the forum is here for, them cocky guys forget that they used to be noobs and ask questions. I am alway here to give my honest opinion about questions. hope that helps... later
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RE: Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 8/1/2007 7:49:55 AM
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wellarmedCr@cker
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ORIGINAL: twistatech I tell everybody to learn how they want to do wheelies whatever way they feel comfortable. But once you get the hang of the wheel coming up naturally you are going to have to progress to clutching. Power wheelying isn't really that bad if your not going that high but once you start getting near balance point is when it gets sketchy. Your bike is lifting the front wheel under pure acceleration so when it comes the the balance point what are you going to do, you can't let off because the bike will slam down, and it takes a experienced rider to feel the point and start letting off to get it to actually balance from a power wheelie. Not to mention if you don't know anything about balance point your just going to stay in the throttle and the bike will be on top of you in a heart beat. That is why they are dangerous. On the flip side clutching get the wheel up initially close to balance point with little or minimal acceleration, and you can play with the throttle to get on balance point relatively easy. Noobs ( and remember we all used to be noobs , all these cocky guys on here used to be noobs at one time) always think that clutching is way more dangerous because of the looping your bike factor. And it is if you don't practice right and build up to a reasonable clutch wheelie the right way. Take it small and slow you will lift the wheel higher and higher everyday. And don't worry about asking noob questions because that is what the forum is here for, them cocky guys forget that they used to be noobs and ask questions. I am alway here to give my honest opinion about questions. hope that helps... later Hey, thanks. That makes sence. I have brought her down hard a couple times from power wheelieing and I know thats not good on the fork seals. It didn't take that long to get the hang of powering it up maybe I should go ahead and get used to clutching it. Thanks again.
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RE: Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 8/1/2007 10:03:25 PM
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twistatech
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Your welcome, be safe and take it slow and easy, at your own pace. Try to ride with somebody else too that way you can compare notes and learn from each other and somebody will be there if you wipe out.
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RE: Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 8/1/2007 11:23:16 PM
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wellarmedCr@cker
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Tried clutching it today, although the first couple were kind of hairy I started to get the hang of it alot better than the power wheelies. The power wheelies seemed like all or nothing sometimes but the clutched wheelies lifted off every time. Cluthing is deffinatley the way to go. Just got to keep telling myself t take it slow. Kind of addicting.
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RE: Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 9/6/2007 10:59:09 PM
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YellownBlack
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more like very addicting!!! i cant get enough! that 'floating' sensation is freakin wierd! im still not over it! haha
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RE: Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 9/18/2007 10:07:24 AM
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2QK4U2C
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This should be a sticky at the top of the stutning section so everyone who wants to powpow can see.
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RE: Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 9/18/2007 6:40:17 PM
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JZHALES
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power wheelies are just gay
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RE: Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 9/19/2007 6:18:57 PM
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Gville George
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Should you stand up on the foot pegs (I don't mean on the passenger pegs). or sit down. I have tried a few power wheelies with my ass at the back of my seat but didnt get them very high. I have also been told dont pull up, just to preload the shocks, is pulling up that bad?
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RE: Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 9/22/2007 7:06:57 AM
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wellarmedCr@cker
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I,ve been doing them sitting down but I've read they are easier to do standing up, just cover the brake. Easiest way to cover the rear brake standing up is to put left foot on passenger step and right foot covering brake.
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RE: Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 9/26/2007 1:05:08 PM
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twistatech
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When you start doing stand ups, put your left foot on the passenger pegs. Leave all your fingers on the grip except your index finger which you will use to clutch it up. The reason you want to put your foot on the passenger peg is because it takes less strength to hold your self up. If you just keep your feet on the front pegs you have to use a lot of arm strength to hold yourself up. Be careful not to let your rear peg fold up on you, I didn't really have a problem on the f4i but the 954 has been doing it every so often. As always cover your rear brake just in case. Clutching a wheelie when done right will not do much if any damage to your bike, when you are starting to learn you may burn it a bit. After you get it down, you shouldn't notice any change in your clutch feel. If you are seriously worried about doing something to your bike from doing wheelies then you honestly shouldn't do them, you could wreck or just bang your bike up from landing and what ever else. They are addicting like crack ( if you are hooked on crack don't start doing wheelies either) once you start you won't be able to stop. The best tip I can give is to go out in the country on a desolate road and practice, that way you are not trying to impress anybody and you can learn at your own pace. That is what I did, be safe and have a cell phone or a buddy with just in case something happens. Later guys and put up some damn videos so we can see your progress, I will get one up as soon as the weather gets nice again so that way nobody has to ask the same questions all the time. later Ben
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RE: Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 9/28/2007 7:58:25 PM
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slimmyslim1420
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When you clutch a wheelie do you just kind pull and release the clutch while keeping steady throttle? With the pull and release being a fairly quick motion? Or when you pull the clutch do you give it a little more throttle right before you pop it out? Are you trying to pop the clutch, or trying to avoid popping it?
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RE: Whats so wrong with power wheelies? - 9/29/2007 5:15:49 AM
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twistatech
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It depends on how hard you are already in the throttle, if you are accelerating then you don't need to give it much gas. If you are going a constant speed you need to give it gas. Get going like 30 mph in 2nd and then pull in the clutch and give it some gas(don't rev it like 3 times and then do it, it should be a smooth rev and then release the clutch) and let out the clutch in a second. Some people call it slipping the clutch, but essentially it is poppin the clutch. Take it small and work your way up higher, you will get the hang of it pretty quick. it should sound like this brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr WHAA brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr constant 30mph............................clutch it up. trying to find balance point............................................. balance point .................. hahaha I have always wanted to do that. do ya understand that? later Ben
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