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RE: Safety Information - 8/19/2007 6:49:36 PM
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sixhundredrr
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Just have him wait up for you at intersections. Riding well takes time and you must keep your comfort level a top priority. It's good to communicate before riding where you are going. I've found that making sure your head is turned in the direction you are heading makes curves much easier. Even though I have the technique down, I don't push myself or the bike beyond what I feel comfortable with. I feel comfortable with the bike making it home w/o any damage. Thus, I take my time and enjoy/appreciate roads at my own pace. Crash, have you taken your MSF yet? Mine was great! I learned so much about technique from very experienced people who were there to help. I highly recommend it.
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RE: Safety Information - 8/19/2007 10:24:22 PM
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TK954RR
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Kind of general knowledge but since i didnt see it i will say it. New tires are slippery and can take 30-50 miles to scrub in good depending on your riding style. If ya get a new bike the new tires on it will be slick for a while, go easy. Tires also take time to warm up a bit, dont scream out of your driveway on a cold morning, or you could be in for a surprise. Just to say it again, wife beats and flipflops are not good riding gear. I know its hot out, but if you think your warm in your jacket, wait till you feel how warm your skin gets sliding down the pavement.
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RE: Safety Information - 8/20/2007 3:41:14 AM
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This thread was a good Idea. I am 49 and have been riding forever. I am sitting here rehabing a broken leg from a low side in W.V. 7wks. ago. I was in full gear and except for the leg I did not get a scratch. The bike was totaled. The break was a tib/fib just over the left ankle. I was wearing quality riding boots that I am sure kept it from being compound. The ambulance guys left the boot on until the hosp. The fit of the boot kept the leg stable and kept the swelling down. The leg is doing great, I have a 954 sitting here getting up graded suspension and in about another 4wks. I will be back on the road. With out the proper gear I would have been a WHOLE lot worse off. DON'T go cheap on the boots and wear gloves. I have been on and off bikes over the years both on the street and racing dirt. Skin comes off way to easy it's just smart to take the advise of others instead of letting your own hind site be so very clear. 
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RE: Safety Information - 8/20/2007 7:23:34 AM
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Tires also take time to warm up a bit, dont scream out of your driveway on a cold morning, or you could be in for a surprise.
+1 Had a buddy leave for work in the morning (a 'showboater' kind of friend, if you know what I mean), cold tires with high miles. Made it a block before he went for a left handed turn WAY too hot for his tires, lost it, totaled his bike, slid across dirt/sidewalk/more dirt, hit some bushes then a wall. He got up and pushed his bike home, but he was seriously sore. He wore his gear, so that saved him some hurt.
My 2 cents would be, watch where you are in respect to other cars! It's super easy for us to hide in a cagers blind spot, I'm always watching for it and accel/decelerating to compensate. Don't EVER expect a cager to see you... because they won't. You might think they looked RIGHT at you, but subconciously, your motorcycle doesn't register as a "threat" in their minds, so they may totally dismiss your presence and not mean too. We've got agility on our side, always be ready to use it!
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RE: Safety Information - 8/20/2007 2:38:38 PM
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crashkhanman
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Sixhundredrr, I have the MSF schedule for this upcoming weekend and I'm looking forward to it :) ! Quick nubee question for anyone out there ... how do I attach my second helmet to the backseat where it sits flat on the seat and not off the side of the bike when i'm riding ? Thanks
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RE: Safety Information - 8/20/2007 4:15:00 PM
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sixhundredrr
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Get one of those bungee net things at your local dealer. That ought to do it. There might be a better way.
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RE: Safety Information - 8/21/2007 8:09:05 AM
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sixhundredrr
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Bump for the newbs.
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RE: Safety Information - 8/22/2007 5:18:20 PM
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sixhundredrr
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Riding at night: Slow down. The term 'over-riding your headlights' is a direct reference to how much light your headlamps put out and how quickly you cover the distance illuminated. If you are traveling too quickly, you will not be able to perceive and react to something in your illuminated path of travel before you are upon it. Slowing down not only makes it more likely that hitting something will not cause serious injury if you are geared up, but it also allows time for reaction and decreases braking distances.
Maybe we should turn this into a story telling thread. Anyone care to enlighten us as to a situation, either past or recent, in which good riding or preparation saved you or your bike.
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RE: Safety Information - 8/22/2007 5:36:17 PM
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Juggernaut
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Riding at night: Slow down. The term 'over-riding your headlights' is a direct reference to how much light your headlamps put out and how quickly you cover the distance illuminated. If you are traveling too quickly, you will not be able to perceive and react to something in your illuminated path of travel before you are upon it. Slowing down not only makes it more likely that hitting something will not cause serious injury if you are geared up, but it also allows time for reaction and decreases braking distances.
Maybe we should turn this into a story telling thread. Anyone care to enlighten us as to a situation, either past or recent, in which good riding or preparation saved you or your bike.
Ditto on slowing down at night.
As for storytelling, I'll leave it at: stay near the center of on-/off-ramps. There is a lot of detritus and gravel along the outer edges, even inside the outer thirds of the lane.
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RE: Safety Information - 8/23/2007 8:03:28 AM
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This is a great topic. I just started riding this summer and have put about 2200 miles on my 89 600F. I took the MSF class before I ever took my bike on the road and it has helped a lot. Go take the MSF as soon as you can. I have been lucky enough to have my two oldest brothers take me out a few times, one leading the way and the other following me. I am 30 and they are both in their mid 40s and they have been riding for 20+ years. They stress patience and riding at my own pace. My brother who rides in front is there to help show me the correct lines for turns and the one behind me gathers info for me so when we stop he can help correct any mistakes or give me suggestions to help build my confidence.
If you have a couple friends who are patient enough, I would suggest this for a few reasons. One they are around for saftey, two you can learn a lot by watching a SAFE experienced rider and three they can help tutor you riding skills. The key element in this is Riding at Your Own Pace.
+1 on the riding gear. Wear it all the time.
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RE: Safety Information - 8/23/2007 11:10:58 AM
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crashkhanman
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Question about gear ... I have already purchased Vortex Frame slider pucks/bases for my bike, AlpineStars Mesh Padded Jacket, and Olympia Performance Gloves. Currently I am looking to buy a nice pair of riding pants that will protect my knees and butt an that can easily be put on and taken off. Most of my riding is done in 10 - 20 mile increments at speeds around 45 - 60 mphs with many stops involved. Which pair of riding pants would you experienced riders recommend for that kind of riding style? Is there pants that slip over shorts? And do you think the mesh performance jacket is good protection?
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RE: Safety Information - 8/23/2007 12:09:13 PM
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sixhundredrr
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Textile jackets are good but leather is the best. As for pants, Icon makes some good riding jeans that I use. I have barrier jeans and they go on/off easy and I can wear shorts underneath. If you want, you could get some textile pants with armor that would provide even more protection for impacts. Check with your local dealers for pants because the ability to try something on for fitment and feel is very important.
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RE: Safety Information - 8/23/2007 1:17:04 PM
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VoodooStar
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1. How long should you ride your bike in the morning before taking turns?
2. If the tires are cold, how should turns be negotiated
3. For the love of God, and everything sacred can you please tell me what a 'cager' is?
A tire can perform to it's potential only when it attains its optimum running temp. It varies by tire. I generally give it a couple of miles before the freeway. Hard braking helps warm up the tire quicker.
When tires are cold, they will not perform as you expect them to. So don't get off of your driveway & hit the first 35 mph turn at 70mph. Most often the rear will slip if it's not warm enuff.
And, a cager is someone who drives a car, truck or anything where the individual is protected(inside a cage).
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RE: Safety Information - 8/23/2007 5:26:33 PM
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Juggernaut
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Question about gear ... I have already purchased Vortex Frame slider pucks/bases for my bike, AlpineStars Mesh Padded Jacket, and Olympia Performance Gloves. Currently I am looking to buy a nice pair of riding pants that will protect my knees and butt an that can easily be put on and taken off. Most of my riding is done in 10 - 20 mile increments at speeds around 45 - 60 mphs with many stops involved. Which pair of riding pants would you experienced riders recommend for that kind of riding style? Is there pants that slip over shorts? And do you think the mesh performance jacket is good protection?
The vortex sliders are junk. I am swapping my vortex sliders out and I have a set of FI sliders on order that are almost three times longer and will do a much better job of protecting the rest of the bike enough that a low-side at slow to moderate speed won't destroy critical components like brake levers and pegs.
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