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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/11/2007 9:15:33 PM
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Mad
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I went with Teknic Chicane because of price. I got it for $399 and bought the boots for less than a $100. No complaints.. You will also need to invest in a back protector so add that to your bill. The positive is now when you do weekend runs you'll have good protection. I now ride in full gear all the time. There are times I wish I bought a two-piece. When we ride on the weekends and make our stops it is much easier to take the jacket off and cool down, etc. I now recommend a two-piece to everyone!
I felt I made a good investment even though at the time it broke me at the time. I am in pretty much the same boat as you. Track is 3 hours away and I am scrapping money to throw a track day every quarter. It's addictive! Good luck.
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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/12/2007 1:10:20 AM
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dwhite645
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Prepare to drop big dough!!!
Look into Sidi B2 ($200) or Sidi Vertigo ($275) boots
As for a suit, I currently wear a 2 piece Joe Rocket suit for the track and also wear the same for backroads riding. It's on the bottom end as far as leathers go, but soon I'll be getting a 1 piece suit, no question about it. Don't cheap on a suit...I saw one guy crash in June during a trackday wearing a cheap moto GP brand suit made from kangaroo leather and the stitchings ripped on the thigh during a slide....GP suits are like $400, so don't cheap out. Look into Vanson, Dainese or Taichi (spelling?) 1 piece suits. Two piece suits have a habit of tearing the zippers that connect the two pieces. Also don't kid yourself over color of suit making it less hot. It could be white or black and you'll still cook in it.
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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/12/2007 2:01:16 AM
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I have had my solid black Vanson Volante http://www.vansonleathers.com/catalog_2004/pdf_images/5.pdf for several years. Prior to that, a parade of other brands in many different colors. This is my favorite suit. Getting into and out of this is simplified by the dual zippers. No one at the track will dis a Vanson. WORD!
I agree with dwhite. I cannot tell much difference in heat build up between colors, at least not while riding.
Gaerne makes a great race boot with a rear entry system. I am so groovin' on these. I think they are right there with Sidi and AStar for protection and comfort. I found this after I bought them a couple of years back; http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-boots/gaerne-grs/ from memory, I think he had trouble getting into the boot. Me too...at first. Easiest track boot to get in and out of I've ever had...now!
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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/12/2007 10:10:31 AM
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I didn't pay much for my 1-pc AGV Sport. It's survived a slide pretty well. The reason I went with 1pc is because it was tough to find a good ventilated 2pc at a decent price.
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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/12/2007 12:44:57 PM
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you'll never get it right the first time...because everyone has different figures...to me comfort and safety is number one...i went through 4 different suits to get the one that fits perfectly...with that money I coulda gotten a custom suit which runs about $2500...
currently on track I wear Spidi 1pc(this fits me the best) and on street I wear Fieldsheer 2pc which is alot cheaper...I find that for me 1pc has better fitting than 2pc...that's just me tho...you really gotta try it on before you make any purchases...
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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/12/2007 1:06:36 PM
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Jaybird180
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Oh yes. Do not make the mistake of getting a suit thinking, "I'd like a little room here, and it's too tight there..." In order to protect best, the suit should be snug against the body. Good fit is important, err on the side of snug if you must because leather will stretch a little (I mean a little). Adding a back protector removes roominess. You also will sweat a little during the day adding back a few milimeters.
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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/12/2007 11:13:17 PM
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doncollins
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Thanks for the tips guys. I meant white to be cooler becuase I will be wearing in on my weekend backroad trips too and when you stop to talk, or what ever reason they find to stop... the black would cook.
So, two piece is not good? Not turing pro or anything, mostly back roads and would like to do a couple of track days a year.
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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/12/2007 11:13:51 PM
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doncollins
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Just checked out the SIDI boots... very nice... thanks.
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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/12/2007 11:56:17 PM
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Mad
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Two-piece is good. I am only one of two in a group of ten who wear a one piece. You'll be fine with a two-piece. I've done two track days and seen numerous crashes. The guys in two-pieces were just fine. So in my opinion a two-piece carry good protection. On the weekend twisties they are more comfortable. If you stop to shoot the shit and decide it is too hot, with a two-piece you can take the jacket off and chill.
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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/13/2007 3:35:12 AM
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I have the Corsa Air...they Rock!!!
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ORIGINAL: doncollins
Just checked out the SIDI boots... very nice... thanks.
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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/13/2007 6:30:41 AM
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Jaybird180
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2 piece has it's advantages on the street. It think the group's concensus is that color does not equal temperature. I have also done back to back comparison of me in my 1pc on a hot day vs jacket & jeans. My ventilated 1pc is waaaaay cooler. It's Black/blue/grey.
Get a good boot. They last a long time, especially if you don't walk the mall in them (thin soles will wear you out).
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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/15/2007 5:40:40 PM
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No matter what you buy make sure it fits right, and by that I mean tight! You can buy the best suit in the world and if it doesn't fit you right, you'll blow the stitching out in the first low speed crash. A suit should fit so that the internal Armour doesn't move around that is absolutely necessary for proper protection, because when the suit starts moving around separately from your body that's when stitching starts to blow out, friction burns occur and the chance of a more sever injury occurs. Also get a back protector; no two butts about it just do it. If you want the opinion of someone who's see pretty much every leather suit and what racers do to them, give Alexa at spiderworks leather, or B.B. a call they will point you in the right direction.
But, here's my 2 cents based on extensive field testing...
Suit - the best bang for the buck is the MotoGP suits, if they fit "YOU" well.
I've worn the MotoGP Kangaroo suit now for 3 years and it has been through many, many crashes, low-speed, high-speed, low side, highsides, pea gravel, mud, etc... and I've only had to have it repaired once. But when I bought the suit new I hade both forearms and both legs from the knee down taken in bit to insure the best fit. I've also used Vanson suits in the past and would highly recommend them to anyone, well worth the price. as far as heat goes color doesn't really matter, the amount of perforation does.
Boots - I've been a big fan of SIDI boots for a long time, I love my Vertigo Corsa's. They crash extremely well, but I've had two small issues, the toe sliders crack (replace them with the ones from the standard Vertigo), and after a 2 1/2 years, the soles on mine are toast... But they're always comfortable, and quality wise they far susprass the A* SMX boots. I've also been looking at Genre (sp?) boots lately and have been very impressed with them from what I've seen and heard.
Gloves - Gloves are gloves, but once again fit is the priority, make sure they are tight and will not come off in a crash.
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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/16/2007 9:15:46 AM
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agv sport 2 piece $450, alpinestar smx-r boots $290, moto gp gloves $150, and a kbc helmet $175.
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RE: What cow are you wearing? - 10/16/2007 12:48:32 PM
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Jaybird180
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My JR Gloves are good. Wore through on a low-side and had them repaired. Took a while for the repair to break in. After getting a new pair of downgraded JRs I still wear the old ones. New ones are still with factory tags, etc....guess I'll sell em'.
So Jason, Where'd you get the suit altered- meaning what kind of place would you trust that work? One of the local racers told me about a leather shop to have my stitching and cosmetics repaired. I thought that it would look like new, but it's got war wounds. What about name badging, patches, etc? I'd like to take some of the AGV badging off, it's all over the place.
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