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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 12:37:45 AM   
MT Wallet

 

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 Thanks notny41

I will get it running someday, just not right now.     I already wasted a couple grand on this thing so I'll have to earn the money back if I want to repair it.

Thanks for the info!

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I don't think it's too bad.  I think its pretty cool actually.  Riding's fun, but fixing ain't too bad either - especially if it is cosmetic stuff.

Get it running so you can get that load off you.  And then just enjoy the thing.  If the tires aren't all that great, get some cheap race take-offs and you will surely love the bike!  That's a good color scheme!

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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 12:39:08 AM   
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It really doesn't look that bad.  It actually looks alot better than mine when I bought it.  Course, I bought it out of a barn with a smashed gas tank and it didn't run, mostly because it only had 3 spark plugs in it.  But yeah, on that chin cowl you're going to want to bolt those two pieces together before you tear off on it (which shouldn't be too long, right?) because they'll get blown back into the manifold and melt.  It happened to me, and now it looks ugly.


I will take care of that once I get it into the Honda dealership.

Right now I don't have the time or the tools or know-how to work on this myself.

  I'll get it checked thoroughly by a certified Honda tech first and see if it's worth saving.

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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 1:06:52 AM   
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Man, that's such a bummer... if I lived close to you I'd be in your garage getting that thing running myself!

For the fairings there is such a thing as plastic weld, but you can also take a small butane torch and very very carefully melt the 2 edges of the crack and use a flat-head screwdriver to blend the plastic together and fuse it into one piece, get a friend to apply pressure and push the pieces together while you do this to ensure a close bond.

Then when you have your rough fit-up you can use body-filler (bondo) and sand it down smooth.

Riddle my brain all you like, I'll try to help as much as I can. I'd love to see you get this bike to a state that you can enjoy it and not kick yourself for the trade!

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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 1:26:23 AM   
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When I first rode the bike I loved it.    But you see, I had not ridden any sportbike for about a year so I had no way to tell how heavy and big it was.

After a while the size and weight became annoying and I missed the nimbleness of the f2 and how easy it was to go slow in traffic.  I do that a lot here.        But with the f2 at least it was fun

I also grew to hate the whine from the gear-driven cams.   Very irritating, and I hated the sound of the v-4.

Your approach to getting my bike back in shape is a good one.   But honestly I don't know if I'll have the time or ability to do it.  I will get the bike checked by a Honda tech like I mentioned earlier and go from there.   I agree once I hear it running I'll fall in love all over again.

Thanks for being there, you and everyone on this forum!  



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I used to have an 86 vfr 750.  I loved that bike.  Traded it for a sea-doo.  One of the worst decisions I ever made.  Had the opportunity to ride an identical bike this summer and made me want one again.  I love the low end torque, but I hear ya about liking the inline 4's.  I ended up picking up a TL1000R not long after so now I get my low-end fix.  I have plenty of screaming rice-burners to keep me happy too.

What was it that you didn't like about the vfr?

I have two bikes that are showroom mint and I love it that they are flawless, but I also have other bikes that have lots of cosmetic issues too.  If this F2 were my bike, I'd grab a couple of cans of cheap spraypaint that are "close" in color to your colors and spray the paint into the cap of the spray can and take a paint brush and just dab on the colors to touch up all of the flaws.  My approach on these bikes is not to totally restore, but to get them as close to stock looking as possibly with the least amount of pennies coming out of my pocket.  The chips on the tank, I would try to get as much rust off as I could or treat with a little naval jelly to convert the rust into something you could hit with some touch-up paint. It doesn't sound like that bike will ever look perfect unless you invest 5 times of what it's worth into it.  So just get it as close to respectable as possible and don't blow a bunch of cash on it.  Noone can see imperfections on bikes that are moving on the road anyway.  And if someone has a problem with some cosmetic flaws on a bike sitting in a parking lot, that is their problem.

Get it looking respectable, ride it and enjoy the bike - and do it without dumping a bunch of moolah into it.  Check ebay a lot for any parts you need or see if you can find the parts in the forsale section on this board.  People are generally more than fair here when it is someone who really needs something.  People want to help.  You're in good hands here.  Don't worry about the transaction and chalk it up to learning.  Everything will turn out fine and you will learn alot about your bike as you transform it.

I have found that motorcycles have become a passion in my life.  Not just riding them, but now I buy crashed bikes and nurse them back to health.  I get great pleasure in doing that.  I have never had any formal training - these boards have been invaluable to me.  So for that I thank everyone out here reading this.

Get her up and running and make us all happy.

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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 1:28:15 AM   
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Awesome advice Hershey

I will try the plastic weld eventually and I have a friend here who had an f2.

In fact he sold it to me and it was my very first f2.   That started my love affair with this model



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Man, that's such a bummer... if I lived close to you I'd be in your garage getting that thing running myself!

For the fairings there is such a thing as plastic weld, but you can also take a small butane torch and very very carefully melt the 2 edges of the crack and use a flat-head screwdriver to blend the plastic together and fuse it into one piece, get a friend to apply pressure and push the pieces together while you do this to ensure a close bond.

Then when you have your rough fit-up you can use body-filler (bondo) and sand it down smooth.

Riddle my brain all you like, I'll try to help as much as I can. I'd love to see you get this bike to a state that you can enjoy it and not kick yourself for the trade!

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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 1:31:36 AM   
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 Yes I will take the fairings off the first chance I get.

I know how to do that from my first f2 so it shouldn't be a problem.

And I'll try to give it a good cleaning.  I have tar remover for car paint.   Will it work for my bike?

Yeah the owner also told me that if I wanted to start the bike asap, I could just poke something through the jets.

Thanks for the advice on everything.  I really appreciate it.


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I would also say that the very first thing I do when I get a bike is pull the fairings off and clean them up good.  I use goof-off on any spots that don't come off with soap.  Sometimes that stuff will pull of stubborn stuff (or alcohol might work too - not the kind you drink hahaha).  Once you have the plastics off clean both outside and inside.  If there are cracks, I ALWAYS hit those spots on the back side of the fairing with a product called Plastic Weld (it is a two part epoxy) they claim it bonds to most plastics.  I spread it on nice and thick and sometimes reiforce it with mesh on the back.  You'll also get an idea for any hidden damage (hopefully none).  It would be at that time that you probably want to lift the tank up and get at those carbs.  I understand this probably wont be until you find a new place.  Maybe you can find someone who would help you clean the carbs.  I know that most people who have ever cleaned a carb would be willing to help you do this.  Get a can of carb cleaner and if you can find a thin guitar string those are pretty handy for cleaning jets out.  Once your jets and needle/seat are cleaned out I'll bet that thing fires up.

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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 1:05:16 PM   
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Guys guess what!

  I talked to the seller today and he has already sent me some carbs from another f2 and a front rim.

It's coming via UPS and I should get them Tuesday.

I'll keep you all posted.   The carbs are clean, he soaked them but they need tuning/syncing

That's a load off my chest!!!!

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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 1:10:55 PM   
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Should be able to sell the old carbs and rim if you wanted to - that would help recoup costs.

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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 3:23:14 PM   
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If you want to give me your old carbs I could sure use them :D

Something is up with mine!

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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 5:25:22 PM   
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Should be able to sell the old carbs and rim if you wanted to - that would help recoup costs.


Actually I have to trade him my old carbs for the ones he's giving me.

As for the rim, I need to use it to replace the bent one that's on the f2 he sent me

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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 5:30:46 PM   
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If you want to give me your old carbs I could sure use them :D

Something is up with mine!


I'm sorry Hershey but as part of our verbal agreement, I have to send him my old carbs in exchange for the ones he's sending me.

Update: I just pulled off the tail, lower and middle fairings today and took out the battery.  It goes on a tender. 

I checked the frame of the bike and it appears untouched. No dents, no bends, although I'm no expert.

The rest of the bike looked okay, the engine looks old but then again it's a '91.   

I can't see any leaks from any of the seals so that's good.

I got the two side doors, the fairings in the middle of the bike that display the engine and that have two screws each....I have those at home now and I'll be sanding down some of the rash and putting touch up paint.

Also, those black paint splotches came off with the scrape of a fingernail, so hopefully I can get all that off too.

The chain is toast...but I'm hoping the sprockets can stay.  The teeth in the rear sprocket aren't hooked....just dirty.



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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 7:31:19 PM   
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Here are the pieces of the fairing I am working on tonight.

Just some touch-up paint from Checker's Auto, sandpaper and some zaino polish to get off any dirt/paint splotches



http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v623/broke/?action=view&current=Picture034-2.jpg

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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 7:47:19 PM   
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Right on bro, you're having fun already!  You're bike is going to love you.  That is way cool that there are no leaks on the engine.  Looking forward to hearing more progress.

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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 7:53:33 PM   
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 Ok the black splotches are actually paint nicks and some of the real black paint splotches won't come off.

I may just do it cheap and touch it up with white paint.


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RE: f2 pics - 10/14/2007 7:55:40 PM   
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 It is fun Notny!

I have almost all the plastics off the bike at my parents house.

I stored the plastics securely so no one walks off with them.

This way I can come to the bike on my days off and just get to work cleaning and stuff.

Until I get money to do any actual work on the bike, like the carbs etc...I'll just focus on the cosmetics! 

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Right on bro, you're having fun already!  You're bike is going to love you.  That is way cool that there are no leaks on the engine.  Looking forward to hearing more progress.

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