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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 1/29/2008 12:26:02 PM   
Bulldog_Msrmc


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That is if this law did pass. I am sure VA would piggyback it..just my opinion

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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 1/29/2008 1:57:32 PM   
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Ok, i usually never post on these types of threads because the people who air on the side of safety get flamed...But this bill(albeit overkill) will actually help save lives, and yes it does suck that motorcyclist are getting the shaft and cars aren't cracked down on as hard.  My only biggest gripe with everyone who is against it, is that yes im sure most of us at times feel the need to pull the front wheel up or get into the throttle, but(speaking for myself atleast) I know what consequenses may await me for whatever illegal thing i do.  So if i decide to go 120 down a interstate where the speed limit is 75 and i get pulled over. of course I will get pissed, but I knew that was the risk before I decided to speed.  And if it werent for the irresponsible people doing wheelies while splitting lanes and whatnot, I wouldnt get in half as much trouble I bet.

and another thing, people who are too immature to have self control are causing this to happen.  Feel free to flame me, those of us mature enough to respect the laws are mature enough to handle some one crying because we dont agree with them.


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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 1/29/2008 2:33:46 PM   
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There is a law against cruel and unusual punishment. 

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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 1/29/2008 3:52:08 PM   
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this is crazy, i forsee alot of folks running from cops, some getting busted and then when they get out of jail just gettting another bike and riding without a license....


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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 1/30/2008 9:07:38 AM   
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Didn't bother to read all 3 pages of the thread but got the general jist of it all...parts of it make sense others don't...

We had similar laws just put through up here (Ontario) and the big one was if you are caught doing 50 km/h over the limit they can sieze your vehicle (bike or car!) right there without any hearing etc. Plus if convicted you will lose your license for a year. Not to mention that even when you do get it back you won't be able to afford insurance!


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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 1/30/2008 10:19:24 AM   
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Sometimes you just don't realize that you are going that fast on a motorcycle.  Most people on a sportbike will break the speed laws every day. If this law ever passed in the DMV the cops better abandon the harleys and get Busa's like those cops in TX, cuz those boys are running!!! So in the long run it's gonna do more harm than good.

I understand safety and am all for it, but I don't mind when I see someone take a stretch of "open" road and blaze it.  Most of us like the freedom and the speed of a sportsbike that's why we have them.  If we just wanted to cruise all day then we would just have gotton Harleys.

No lie I was doing the about 45 on a stretch of road one time for about a good 10 miles and nearly fell asleep. I had about 75 miles to go. Damn was I bored.  I eventually got pulled by the cops cuz he said he flew by him doing 50 in a 35 .  I was nearly sleep and I didn't see him. Told him I just got back from Iraq and that my fiance was pregnant with my Sargents baby and that's why I didn't notice him(I made that part up). he acted like he was sorry for me, patted me on the back, told me it would be allright and wrote me a ticket anyway.  Bam instant 3 points!!  Insurance sky high... Now most people I know if you tell them the next time they get pulled they may do jail time and not be able to ride till their child is in middle school are going to say F** that and hit it!!

I digress... Its way too harsh...He really don't think this will pass, he must have something else he wants to pus thru

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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 2/20/2008 6:10:24 AM   
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**** THE POLICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 2/20/2008 10:57:08 AM   
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Well while we're at it we might as well ban European exotics... right?

I'm sorry, I bought a sportbike because I like to go fast.  If someone wants to sit there and tell me it's easy to avoid I would agree...

IF I WERE ON A HARLEY.  Retarded and another perfect example of citizens giving up yet more rights for the, "comfort" of being safe.

Patriot Act anyone?

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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 2/25/2008 6:15:05 PM   
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which is worse....DUI or doing a wheelie? Seriously we've all seen the pictures and commericals of what happens when ppl get kill or injured in a DUI accident. Never seen any of ppl doing wheelies on a motorcycle or going over the speed limit. Yes it does happen but which is a bigger problem? Oviously DUI's but shit they don't get their license taken away for 10 years. They seriously need a reality check cuz ive know several ppl get off with a slap on the hand for driving drunk. That to me is ridiculous....and they are making stricter laws for ppl on motorcycles, WTF. Make stricter laws on ppl who endanger more than just their lives!!

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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 3/3/2008 5:52:59 PM   
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ya know, I felt kinda of guildy spending a good chunk of change getting ready for the track, but this thread has totally justified it.....I see both sides of the story (I'm a libra, what can I say), hell if your going to break the law your taking a risk (end of story), now does the punishment fit the crime, hmmmmmm I would say no.......I plan on taking it to the track, thank God for new jersey motor park (new this year) and pocono raceway!.....honestly I'm looking at a cruiser for the street, because as you guys pointed out its so easy to go fast on sport bikes......breaking the law, breaking the law, ehh ehhh.......

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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 3/4/2008 1:03:15 PM   
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which is worse....DUI or doing a wheelie? Seriously we've all seen the pictures and commericals of what happens when ppl get kill or injured in a DUI accident. Never seen any of ppl doing wheelies on a motorcycle or going over the speed limit. Yes it does happen but which is a bigger problem? Oviously DUI's but shit they don't get their license taken away for 10 years. They seriously need a reality check cuz ive know several ppl get off with a slap on the hand for driving drunk. That to me is ridiculous....and they are making stricter laws for ppl on motorcycles, WTF. Make stricter laws on ppl who endanger more than just their lives!!


I never even thought of that...yeah thats rediculous that it would make stunting stricter than DUI...

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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 3/28/2008 3:09:53 PM   
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I understand completly that these people want to save lives but what there going to do is cause people to stop caring about laws. No one is going to pay attention to this regardless of how smart it might be, pretty soon people are going to be doing whatever they feel like on the roads because everyone will just be running. Maybe if the legislators knew what it was like to be on a bike they would back off. Stunters are for the most part a danger to themselves more than others, and when was the last time someone was stupid enough to get on a bike drunk, its just crazy. they need to be cracking down on something serious like DUI instead of harrasing us. I havent started stuntin yet but i want to, i hope this dosnt spread to texas or im gonna have to practice my high speed evasion.

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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 3/30/2008 8:51:50 PM   
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Ok well to clear this up a bit im a south florida resident and the proposed bill got shut down immediately.  Obviously it made no sense at all to just target motorcycles.

This bill has not passed yet. It isn't even out of committee; this bill is getting the run-around in House, and nothing really is happening in the Senate as well. It would be best if you people who continue to complain about your government take the time out of your day to write a letter to your representatives and express your concerns on the issue of similar identity and over anxious law enforcement that is pressured by public policy to find people in society performing these speeds.

I wrote a letter to the house of represesntatives and this is what i got back:

It has not become a law but simply passed one Committee in the House of Representatives. I would also like to bring to your attention that HB 137 has been amended from its original version. I would suggest reading the copyof the new amendment and I am sure you will find the bill to be more agreeable. This amendment addresses many of the concerns that were brought up when the bill was heard last. I feel that the poor actions of a few riders should not punish all riders. Subsequently, the speeding focus of the bill will be increased to anyone that is speeding 50 mph or greater over the posted speed limit. This applies to both motorcycles and all other motor vehicles. The bill will also be amended to include staggered penalties for first, second and third time offenders. First time offenders will face a $1,000 fine. On the second offense a rider will face $2,500 fine and a one year license suspension. A third time offender will lose their license for 10 years and have to forfeit their vehicle. Additionally language has now been incorporated into the bill that will account for “wheelies” that are beyond the rider’s control.

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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 3/30/2008 8:54:12 PM   
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quote:

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Ok well to clear this up a bit im a south florida resident and the proposed bill got shut down immediately.  Obviously it made no sense at all to just target motorcycles.

This bill has not passed yet. It isn't even out of committee; this bill is getting the run-around in House, and nothing really is happening in the Senate as well. It would be best if you people who continue to complain about your government take the time out of your day to write a letter to your representatives and express your concerns on the issue of similar identity and over anxious law enforcement that is pressured by public policy to find people in society performing these speeds.

I wrote a letter to the house of represesntatives and this is what i got back:

It has not become a law but simply passed one Committee in the House of Representatives. I would also like to bring to your attention that HB 137 has been amended from its original version. I would suggest reading the copyof the new amendment and I am sure you will find the bill to be more agreeable. This amendment addresses many of the concerns that were brought up when the bill was heard last. I feel that the poor actions of a few riders should not punish all riders. Subsequently, the speeding focus of the bill will be increased to anyone that is speeding 50 mph or greater over the posted speed limit. This applies to both motorcycles and all other motor vehicles. The bill will also be amended to include staggered penalties for first, second and third time offenders. First time offenders will face a $1,000 fine. On the second offense a rider will face $2,500 fine and a one year license suspension. A third time offender will lose their license for 10 years and have to forfeit their vehicle. Additionally language has now been incorporated into the bill that will account for “wheelies” that are beyond the rider’s control.




That is an interesting and acceptable alternative.


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RE: 10 year motorcycle ban for wheeling in Miami - 3/30/2008 9:47:20 PM   
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I thought so too, if your dumb enought to get caught going 50 over three times you should lose your vehicle and not be allowed to drive. Obviously your a dumb ass.

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