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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 12/27/2007 6:08:09 PM

bergs

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Pics are posted in order of disassembly:

Pic3- Shows the cam lobe 90* from the bucket. The tool I'm holding in the pic is for reference.

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 12/27/2007 6:09:51 PM

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Only 250kb?? What the heck?

Pic2- Made a hook to keep the cam chain from falling through the chain passage

Pic3- Intake cam removed showing the tops of the buckets

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 12/27/2007 6:11:24 PM

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Pic1- Removing the bucket with a strong magnet

Pic2- Shim and bucket removed showing valve retainer

Pic3- Bucket and shim

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 12/27/2007 6:13:01 PM

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Pic1- Shim, bucket and baggy

Pic2- Bags labeled with shim size and corresponding buckets

Pic3- Buckets removed; Shims in

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 12/27/2007 6:14:48 PM

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Cam timing on 2003 Yamaha FZ1.

See how the hole is spot on to the line? One tooth in either direction and the timing is off.

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 12/27/2007 6:26:34 PM

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I forgot to mention:

MAKE SURE THE BUCKETS GO EXACTLY WHERE THEY CAME FROM!

LABEL EVERYTHING HOWEVER YOU WANT AS LONG AS THE BUCKETS GO BACK IN THE EXACT SPOT THEY WERE REMOVED FROM.

Sorry for the "yelling" and the boldface but it's critical this step is followed or your final measurments are guaranteed to be incorrect.

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 12/27/2007 8:28:23 PM

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Thanks Bergs, and I don't think I saw the Y word anywhere... Nice photo's, they're good and clear. It's great to see photos of what you're talking about and not blurry fuzzy kindof photo's.

Thanks again.

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 12/27/2007 9:15:01 PM

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No prob on the pics. I had to take good ones as I completely diassembled that entire bike (sans motor) and posted the project at another board....pics were important.

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I don't think I saw the Y word anywhere

Oh it's there. Cam timing is always the exception.

I don't want someone wining at me because they only looked at the pics in the thread and now their bike is broken...LOL

A few other small things:

-If you're going to use the method I mentioned for checking clearance, be sure to notice the slight angle the buckets are sitting at in the head to reference the 90* angle to the cam lobe.

-I remove the plugs before measuring clearances...you're already in there what the heck!....Call me lazy!

-Definitely torque the cam retaining caps in the pattern the book says. Should be two torque settings going tightening in a pattern of some kind.

man. You'll be all set.....just don't forget about the piss shivers when you go to hit the "START" button.

Keep us updated and ask anything.

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 12/27/2007 11:06:53 PM

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yeah definatly keep us updated!

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 1/11/2008 8:16:53 AM

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So....what was the out come? Success??

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 1/11/2008 10:20:19 PM

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quote:

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So....what was the out come? Success??

Sorry y'all, I haven't even started yet. We're still riding them down here. I was wanting to get information before starting. It'll be a couple of weeks still bofore I start. I'll take photos and post back then.

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 1/16/2008 12:20:01 PM

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I'm planning on doing this myself for my '04 F4i, but I have a quick question. Some other guides mention the #1-4 cylinders. Is the #1 closest to the cam chain (right side when sitting on the bike) or to the left side of the bike? Also, are the cylinders numbered by location or by firing order (i.e. 1234 or 1243)?

Thanks!

P.S. Thanks for the guide, bergs!

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 1/16/2008 10:39:43 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: clegane

I'm planning on doing this myself for my '04 F4i, but I have a quick question. Some other guides mention the #1-4 cylinders. Is the #1 closest to the cam chain (right side when sitting on the bike) or to the left side of the bike? Also, are the cylinders numbered by location or by firing order (i.e. 1234 or 1243)?

Thanks!

P.S. Thanks for the guide, bergs!

Consult your service manual.

Usually, cylinders are numbered left to right 1 thru 4 sitting on the bike.

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 1/17/2008 5:21:17 AM

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Good work Bergs!!

This thread needs to be moved to the Tech section with a "sticky".

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RE: Planning on Adjusting Valve Clearances - 2/16/2008 6:28:15 PM

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Well, I finally order the seal for the cylinder head cover (just in case) as well as the rubber gaskets for the head bolts. I'm currently half way through the process. I'll post some pictures later. I need 4 shims, 2 are the same size that I need and the others are different. The thing that dissappoints me is that none of the Honda dealers around her (there are 4 of them) don't have any of the shims.

Not one for the F3 at all. The thing that irks me is that these shims fit on 42 different models of Honda motorcycles throughout the years. I would have thought that they'd have plenty and wide variety. Oh well, I'll have to order and finish next weekend. Nice thing is we've got 3 bikes, so we can still ride this weekend.

I also learned what it is that the Cam Chain Adjuster tool does and how it works

. I also created an excel spreadsheet to help keep the math organized for each of the clearances and current shims. As for organizing the lifters and shims, I'm using an egg carton and labeling the inside as to which cylinder and valve they came from.

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