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RE: battery - 1/8/2008 7:51:56 AM
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lococbrf2
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ok so say it is just the battery what will be the negetive affects of still runnig the bike with a dead battery i can push start it and it will start right up with no problems but the battery will not start it no power in the battery
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RE: battery - 1/8/2008 8:41:59 AM
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MikeInCtown
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if you can push start the battery and the bike runs, the battery will most likely read at 12volts or better sitting. If the bike will not crank though, or it cranks slow, then the battery is bad and what is happening is that the battery voltage is ok, but put under a load, the battery cannot deliver the required or advertised amps. What you really need to do though is get a multimeter and test the voltages of the battery with the bike shut off and then see what the battery does when you try to start the bike. My old battery went down to 8v, which is when I realized it was really toast, and not just drained. Second, you will want to check the output to the battery while the bike is running. The book says to test at 5k PRMs. You should get certain voltages at certain RPMs. If you do not get the specified voltages, other things besides the battery could be bad.
Also, I made the post before about cold not killing a battery and then the next person posted a quote saying it could. To clarify, cold can kill a battery, IF it is in a discharged state. IE, battery going bad, or was over charged. However, just to say that cold kills a battery would be completely wrong, as evidenced by all the cars that actually start up in the winter up north here.
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RE: battery - 1/8/2008 9:16:58 AM
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lococbrf2
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i know cold does not kill a battery it is just under move of a load in colder situation at startup due thicker engine oil etc i am rather mechuically inclined when it comes to cars and i try to relate some of what i know bout cars to my bike but seeing how dam near all my tools got stolen i have to wait paycheck to paycheck to get the tools i might need ie voltmeter i also like to have lit on the cars or bikes that i have at that pirticaluar time and this site is the best because someone somewhere has had the same problem at one time or another thanx man to everyone that has put some input in
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RE: battery - 1/8/2008 9:27:07 AM
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MikeInCtown
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The 10w40 or 15w-50 that you may have in the bike won't affect the cranking all that much when cold. I thought the same thing, but was able to fire my bike up no problem when it hit 20 here. Slow cranking has more to do with the battery's inability to provide full power under the cold conditions. That's why you need to make sure it's fully charged.
I have a feeling that you are going through the same thing now that I did in the fall. My battery had gotten so bad that it wouldn't even turn the starter on a warm day, but would allow the bike to fire fine if I push started it. (I even have a nice GSXR R/R to install as I thought that was the problem)
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RE: battery - 1/8/2008 10:28:29 AM
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lococbrf2
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whats the deal with that by the way i have talked to a few people and they say the honda r/r arejunk and i should replace it with a gsxr or yama r/r is this true what is the difference between a ho0nda and the others the r/r has been replaced with a factory one with cooling fins the stock one did not have the fins other than the fins what is the difference
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RE: battery - 1/8/2008 10:38:03 AM
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lococbrf2
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also what is a good battery i have been looking online and found a battery that has the same technolgy as a optima and its warrantied for two years the brand in oddesy has anyone heard of these or had and exspirence with these
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RE: battery - 1/8/2008 10:49:45 AM
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MikeInCtown
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The GSXR R/R is a nice unit because it's cheap on eBay (bought mine for like $15 plus shipping) and they have large cooling fins. The OE Honda units don't have cooling fins and get really hot. My leg gets really hot from the R/R while riding.
Never heard of that battery before. I bought a Yuasa from some on line battery place in CA that I found on Google. Communication sucked and it took a bit longer than I wanted, but it works great. Paid $50 for mine. While I was waiting (thought I'd lost my money and had started claim process with bank) I bought a new battery locally from a supplier for $30 which was the same as the parts store wanted $60 for. The afternoon I was going to crack open the liquid and fill the second one, the Yuasa showed up. So I have an extra sitting right now in my storage unit. I was told since I never added the liquid I could keep it as long as I wanted and it would not go bad. (sweet)
Anyway, there are a lot of good deals out there as long as you know where to look. Industrial suppliers who sell to other places or who sell truck batteries are often good places as they have branched out to make extra money.
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RE: battery - 1/28/2008 2:50:37 PM
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dachamp312
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hey Mike, which gsxr regulator rectifier is compatible with the f2? do you have a cross reference sheet or anything that may help??
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RE: battery - 1/29/2008 11:40:13 AM
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MikeInCtown
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ORIGINAL: dachamp312
hey Mike, which gsxr regulator rectifier is compatible with the f2? do you have a cross reference sheet or anything that may help??
If you do a search for "GSXR regulator" you'll see some information.
I think from 00 up through maybe 05 or 06 could work from the 600,750, and 1000. The trick is getting the one that is 5 wire and a single plug. Some of the newer models have I think a 7 wire or 9 wire and they have two plug ends. Most of the people on eBay post decent pictures that you can see how many wires and what color they are.
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RE: battery - 1/29/2008 1:06:24 PM
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dachamp312
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Thanks Mike, that helps me out- big time!!
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