190 on a 600RR?
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RE: 190 on a 600RR? - 1/16/2008 12:57:33 AM
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hmm, I was actually wondering the same thing the other day. Hopefully we hear from someone who has done it
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RE: 190 on a 600RR? - 1/16/2008 9:23:18 AM
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bluej511
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a 190 fits from what i understand but your decreasing lean angle or something but better straight line traction.
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RE: 190 on a 600RR? - 1/16/2008 10:49:12 AM
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Yes it would fit....BUT...You would have a slower turn-in then you have now and the ride would not be very stable with the extra width and sidewall height. Not recommended.
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RE: 190 on a 600RR? - 1/16/2008 10:53:19 AM
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bigcha40
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iv also heard that it will bend the lip of the rim over time if its a stock 600 wheel with a 190 on it
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RE: 190 on a 600RR? - 1/16/2008 12:23:22 PM
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the bike was designed for those exact tire sizes... you are talking about making major differences in how it performs/handles. I enjoy taking a lean, so why move the dynamics?
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RE: 190 on a 600RR? - 1/16/2008 3:09:24 PM
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190/55 is doable. some like it. some dont. either way, it's safe to do. many a racer choose this over a 180.
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RE: 190 on a 600RR? - 1/16/2008 7:27:15 PM
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AAH! conflicting opinions.. which is what I expected. Is it safe or not, and will I lose any ability to get-er down low?
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RE: 190 on a 600RR? - 1/16/2008 7:31:36 PM
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wider tire = lean angle affected
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RE: 190 on a 600RR? - 1/16/2008 7:48:17 PM
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From a racers standpoint...
The 190 weights more...enough to make a noticable difference.
The 190 offers more "side traction".
The 190 requires a different suspension set-up to work.
The 190 requires moreturn-in effort and is not as "flickable" side to side.
On tracks with long, flowing, fast corners, a 190/55 works well becuase of the additional side traction. But on shorter, tighter more techinical tracks the 180 works better becuase you're spending more time going side to side.
I've tried it, didn't really like but could feel in some corners where it would help, BUT I never set my racebike up for it...
It's safe to do, but unless you can run a fairly quick race pace, I doubt you'd notice any real traction difference. At most you'd probably notice the additional pressure required during intial turn-in. Stay away from the 190/50 unless you go with a 6" rim, the 190/55 is a little pinched on the 5.5" rim, but a 190/50 is really pinched on a 5.5" rim.
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ORIGINAL: bigcha40
iv also heard that it will bend the lip of the rim over time if its a stock 600 wheel with a 190 on it
Who ever told you that should be smacked up side the head, tires don't bend rims... incompenent tire changers, pot holes and crashes bend rims.
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RE: 190 on a 600RR? - 1/16/2008 8:12:57 PM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Jason748
From a racers standpoint...
The 190 weights more...enough to make a noticable difference.
The 190 offers more "side traction".
The 190 requires a different suspension set-up to work.
The 190 requires moreturn-in effort and is not as "flickable" side to side.
On tracks with long, flowing, fast corners, a 190/55 works well becuase of the additional side traction. But on shorter, tighter more techinical tracks the 180 works better becuase you're spending more time going side to side.
I've tried it, didn't really like but could feel in some corners where it would help, BUT I never set my racebike up for it...
It's safe to do, but unless you can run a fairly quick race pace, I doubt you'd notice any real traction difference. At most you'd probably notice the additional pressure required during intial turn-in. Stay away from the 190/50 unless you go with a 6" rim, the 190/55 is a little pinched on the 5.5" rim, but a 190/50 is really pinched on a 5.5" rim.
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ORIGINAL: bigcha40
iv also heard that it will bend the lip of the rim over time if its a stock 600 wheel with a 190 on it
Who ever told you that should be smacked up side the head, tires don't bend rims... incompenent tire changers, pot holes and crashes bend rims.
This is pretty much what I was going to say, but I'll add my little bit anyways.
I got my bike with a 190. Damn thing flat spotted hard core in the center. Cornering was either all or nothing in regards to lean. It was doable, but it wasn't great. I put a 180 on the last change. WHOA! It was like the bike came back to life. Flickable, lean control, and the center was not nearly as flat as the 190 after nearly as many miles. I'd never go back to a 190.
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RE: 190 on a 600RR? - 1/16/2008 9:27:06 PM
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AAH! conflicting opinions.. which is what I expected. Is it safe or not, and will I lose any ability to get-er down low?
no, if anything it helps keep it planted during lean. but you must really lean leaning the hell out of it. 190/55 for the track, 180/55 for the street.
you ride like a retard at the track, not the street.
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