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installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 2/23/2008 4:39:47 PM

zvillephatboygt

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hey i just installed a new set of fibers, steels and springs for my clutch, i got it all together and now it will not ingage. i have had it apart 3 diffrent times, read over the manual i have on my computer, thinking i forgot something, but cant seem to figure out what i done wrong? has anyone else had this problem when installing new clutchs? any help would be appricated.

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 2/24/2008 1:30:38 PM

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Strange...

It's supposed to work BETTER with a new clutch!

Methinks you did somethin wrong, all the plates have to be facing the proper way, and the bevelled ring at the end has to be in the right way... did you soak the fibers in oil before installing them?

Is it getting into gear, or stuck in neutral?

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 2/24/2008 1:33:57 PM

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you may want to mess with your clutch adjustments both by the clutch and the hand....but i would have thought if that was the issue it wouldnt DISengage...check the adjustments...sometimes the obvious is overlooked.

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 2/24/2008 6:28:09 PM

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yeah i soaked them in oil, how can you tell if the fibers are the same way? i know the steels are all going the same way, and on the belved ring which way is the bevel supposed to go? this manual i have is not telling me anything lol. and i spent hours messing with the adjustments on both, i was hoping it was just that. thanks for the input

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 2/25/2008 4:42:14 PM

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Read the last post on this page:

http://www.cbrforum.com/m_468724/tm.htm

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 2/26/2008 4:18:55 AM

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thanks that helps out. from that post i have everything else right, except i dont think the last 2 are right ( the judder and seat spring.) from the way i take it the belved edgr on the judder spring goes towards the cover, right? i will hopefully take it all apart tonight and see if thats my problem. and again THANKS YOU VERY MUCH for all the good info, the manual i have does not realy explain anything, and i am 50 miles from the nearest dealer, and only have one day a week to get there to order another manual. thanks again and i will keep you updated.

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 2/26/2008 5:45:04 PM

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Yes, beveled side points outward from the bike.

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 2/26/2008 6:46:51 PM

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Go to Amazon if you want a manual. Costs like $25 bucks shipped and the dealership will cost you $28 or so + tax, so thats the route I went. I refuse to go to the dealership for parts anymore, they sold me plugs for 8.50 when I could have got them for 5.50 and 6.50 for Iridium. Online really is the best place to go.

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 2/26/2008 7:22:27 PM

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yeah i found a manual today online for $22 and the dealership wanted $35, so hmmm where shall i get it lol.

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 3/1/2008 10:03:09 AM

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alright everyone, again today i went to work on these damn clutches. i tore everything apart to make sure i had everything there, and in the right place, i did have to put the last fiber ( the one with the larger ID) in the shallower slots, and turn my judder sprong around. After all of that i put it back together, adjusted the cable , put it in gear, pulled the clutch lever, and nothing. The wheel still will not move, so the clutch is still not working for some damn reason lol. I mean its not a hurry process, just the fact that everything is in there and lined up right, the way i take it, but i cannot figure out why it will not ingage???? i even tried all the adjustments i could on the cable. so i am at a loss after i get my book if i can figure it out, i guess it will have to go to the stealership lol

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 3/1/2008 10:22:20 AM

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When you pull in the clutch lever does it feel firm? Like a normal clutch should?

When you let the clutch out while it is in gear, can you push the bike around?

Does it make any strange noises?

Did it work before you took it apart?

Have you tried in all of the gears?(1-6)

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 3/1/2008 3:18:55 PM

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Yes when i pull the clutch lever it feels firm like it used to, and the tighter i make the cable the harder it is to pull, No when i let the clutch out or even when i pull it in with it in gear i can not move the back wheel, i currently have it on bike stands to help, i had it started the first time i did the clutches, and put the oil in and fired it up, it made no strange noises ran fine, then i pulled in the clutch to put it in gear and i had no clutch, and yes it work fine with my old clutch, the only problem i had was it was starting to slip, so i figured while it was down for the winter i would to a clutch job. I read up on here on how to do it, downloaded the manual, and it seemed like a pretty simple process, and everytime i have tore it apart and put it back together it semmed fine and wet together smooth. I have checked, rechecked, and even triple checked it before everything, and it will go in all gears but the clutch does not work at all, lol any help would be much appriciated, i might try to put my old ones back in tomorrow and see if they work, but who knows i still have a few weeks before riding time.

thanks for the fast response also

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 3/1/2008 3:46:09 PM

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Are you trying to turn the wheel by hand or with the running engine?

I'm confused, the wheel doesn't turn no matter if the clutch is engaged or disengaged?

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 3/1/2008 6:43:43 PM

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just by hand, now, the first time it was with the motor running, and the clutch did not work, so instead of wasting more oil i have been trying to turn it by hand with the clutch lever in. shouldnt it turn with the clutch lever pulled in???

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RE: installed new clutch, now wont ingage - 3/1/2008 7:21:41 PM

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Did you count the number for friction and steel plates compared to your old ones? Also i would take things apart and stack the new clutch plates and compare their height to the old one and see if there is any large difference. Also i would do the same thing with the clutch springs. If you happen to run one less clutch disc then you might have this problem, or they are the wrong thickness and the pressure plate will only go in so much. It is hard to diagnosis over the net. Are you using a stock clutch parts or aftermarket?

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