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Being aware - 3/12/2008 11:20:02 PM   
Shadow



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I''ve resurrected this post from earlier this year, for the benefit of our newer members
Old guys, bear with me......



I''ve been reading a lot of posts lately about bike safety, rider training, wearing the right gear and so on, all of which I fully endorse....I wouldn''t think of getting on the bike without all my gear, even to go to the local shop.... I do think, though, that being AWARE of what''s going on around you on the road is as important in saving lives as the other skills you develope, like counter steering, and so on.....trying to think for all the guys around you, and predicting their actions(shouting at their kids, yapping on cellphones etc etc.)I think it was Yanagawa who was a world class superbike rider, killed recently on a scooter in Suzuki city, hit by a truck (?) - Nobody could doubt his riding ability, but perhaps awareness is something we could all improve on.....
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RE: Being aware - 3/13/2008 3:05:04 AM   
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Gotta look out for those Camry Drivers.. .  .   .    .

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RE: Being aware - 3/13/2008 4:28:47 AM   
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Here in Buenos Aires traffic is caos, it's completely collapsed. There are traffic jams every day, too many people driving their cars ALONE to get to work, so downtown is a mess.
Sadly that's where I work too, so I got me a 125cc scooter to get through all the stupid tin cans that block the way.
This is an every day sighting:

So, being aware? I wouldn't be writing this if I wasn't!
Yeah that's probably the most important skill to develop when riding a motorcycle. You can be the best pilot but if you're not fully aware of your surroundings and be able to anticipate what the heck are the vehicles around you going to do, then it's worth nothing. I had my two crashes, of course... no one said it's easy to learn, right?

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RE: Being aware - 3/13/2008 7:18:43 AM   
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Don't knock the Camry  

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RE: Being aware - 3/13/2008 7:40:32 AM   
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Hey, Blue Mate, looks like MarkR hit a nerve.......he he
Now they'll probably all dump on you about your Toyota......

Ola' Daniel !- I see why you need the scooter - a Hurricane wouldn't fit between the cars !!

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RE: Being aware - 3/13/2008 8:42:08 AM   
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if im riding beside a car i always make sure they see me and not being in there blind spot,seen to many blinkers coming over on me at the last moment swerving back to there lane .... most of them on the cell phone .

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RE: Being aware - 3/13/2008 9:22:12 AM   
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It was Norifume Abe! It is sad that something like that happened, but yes, being aware of one's surroundings matters alot. The issue lately is riding attitude. Too many "kids", yes adults can fit that as well, going out hopping on a 150+ MPH crotch rocket and getting killed because they think they are invincible is senseless. I'm a motorcycle safety instructor and like I tell every class, there are two types of motorcyclists, those that have been down and those that will be. You just pray the one when you go down isn't a bad one, just something silly.

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RE: Being aware - 3/13/2008 11:46:53 AM   
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Yup, Norick Abe. Thanks Druid for the correction.The attached pic was apparently a young fellow who'd had his license three months, and struck the vehicle doing in excess of 200KPH (125MPH) which is a classic example of testosterone overcoming ability, sad to say......even if the people in the car had seen him before pulling out in front of him, their reactions, and his lack of skill, plus inability to react in time, was a recipe for diaster. Just highlights Druid's signature. There are just so many of these, and the classic response of "I didn't see you" should be replaced from time to time with "you were going so fast, I couldn't react in time"  which is probably more accurate. Doesn't help the families of either group, though.

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RE: Being aware - 3/13/2008 3:47:56 PM   
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Nasty.  Yes, I agree, cell phone users while driving is THE WORST!! 

I have a great manual on driving techniques if anyone wants a copy I'll send it.  Definitly worth the read...

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RE: Being aware - 3/14/2008 11:58:58 AM   
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Hi guys. Filtering here is great fun at the moment. Every other driver is playing with their Twat Nav, IPOD or mobile phone in heavy traffic or at normal speeds. I see people filtering at silly speeds and they won't even see the car moving before it hits them.

I don't listen to my dad often, but one thing he told me as I went to buy my first bike was "imagine every other driver is out there to kill you". This has kept me safe for the last 19 years.


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RE: Being aware - 3/14/2008 12:29:24 PM   
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Yep, my biggest pet peeve are the ones who are on the cell phone while driving!!  Also we have to remember that even if we make eye contact with an automobile driver....it doesn't mean they SEE you!!  Just yesterday i could see the whites of the guys eyes as I was approaching an intersection, and I thought we had eye contact, but you guessed it.... 
  I don't think he was "aware" of his surroundings and simply pulled out.... while I was grabbing and stepping on brake levers as if there were no tomorrow!!!  Arrrgh 

Whew, too close!!!

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RE: Being aware - 3/15/2008 2:49:10 AM   
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About speaking in the cellphone while you're driving...in Finland you get to pay fine for speaking in the phone while driving.
If the police see you do that they stop you and you get your "ticket".
Any similar rules/laws in other countries ?

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RE: Being aware - 3/15/2008 3:11:47 AM   
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Hi all
yes here in Quebec they passed the same law, beleive me i am quite happy ... any of you knows the 50 commandmens of a motorcycle rider? to be reviewed each year.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/howto/122_0608_50_ways/index.html 

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RE: Being aware - 3/15/2008 3:18:39 AM   
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I agree Shadow, being aware is what keeps us alive...

After riding bikes for a few years you develop a sixth sense as it were..

I find it even helps when driving my tintop...

Everyone should do a minimum of 6 months on a bike as part of their licence... Then they'll know and hopefully be more aware of us..




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RE: Being aware - 3/15/2008 6:59:49 AM   
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Great topic Shadow! I am a new street rider as of april 07. Rode dirt bikes in my teens. My attitude is similar to floggers, I assume that every car I see is going to cut me off, on the highway or around town. I have had some close calls and this attitude has definitely saved me. My Dad and I were just in Florida for a couple days and he cut off a couple on a bike, he looked right at them and turned in. I was effen pissed, I let him know too.

As far as the cell phones go, it is illegal here in CT, USA, but not enforced. Every other A..hole is on the damn phone. It drives me insane, constantly cut off by these idiots. I want to build a website trashing these people, already bought the domain. cellstupidity.com

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