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helmet problems - 1/16/2006 2:07:32 AM
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kobester
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I currently have a cl-14 hjc helmet and noticed that there was air coming in from the bottom of it enough to defog a complety fogged up visor going 30. When i asked hjc about this problem they suggested i buy a chin curtain which is basicly a two pieces of mesh fabric that go under the chin area. This didnt help at all so they suggested that it was my riding position i have tried every riding position i can think of at the moment. Is there anything that i can do short of buying a new helmet?
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RE: helmet problems - 1/16/2006 9:04:33 AM
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chainstretcher
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De-fogging is a good thing but an arctic breeze freezing your eyeballs is not. My solution was to buy a seperate helmet for cold weather -- actually it's a snowmobile helmet. It's the same as a normal bike helmet except: double visor (no fog - slight distortion of light), chin warmy thing and a real breath deflector (not the cheap thing HJC calls a breath deflector). Mine is the g-max 38x -- forget how much it costs but it's reasonable. Only thing I don't like about it is some visibility is compromised for warmth -- had it down to 17F with no probs -- so you really gotta check your blind spot good before changing lanes.
As for the HJC, my other helmet is the hjc symax model and it flows air pretty well also. Don't know if you can fix that.
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RE: helmet problems - 1/16/2006 9:11:29 AM
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stephygee
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Kobester,
I have the CL-14 as well and had issues with the air coming in from the bottom, enough so as to cause the helmet to lift at high speeds. I'd have to go into nearly a full tuck during highway riding just to keep the wind resistance down. I've tried opening all the vents hoping the free flowing air would even out, and I tried closing all the vents to create an air bubble within a bubble [helmet]...no dice. Anyway...purchased a breath guard (helps keep the helmet from getting fogged up), and a chin curtain from the dealership. At a good clip of 70-75, there's still the issue of the helmet bouncing around, but it's not as bad as without the chin curtain. Don't know if it's helmet specific (the CL-14s are good helmets, but definitely on the bulky side...sometimes I feel lik Dark Helmet [SpaceBalls] when I put it on), but I'm guessing you might have to purchase another helmet. Probably why I'm purchasing another one *shrug*
If you figure out the anomaly (riding position, vent combination, etc.), let me know. Good luck!
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ORIGINAL: kobester
I currently have a cl-14 hjc helmet and noticed that there was air coming in from the bottom of it enough to defog a complety fogged up visor going 30. When i asked hjc about this problem they suggested i buy a chin curtain which is basicly a two pieces of mesh fabric that go under the chin area. This didnt help at all so they suggested that it was my riding position i have tried every riding position i can think of at the moment. Is there anything that i can do short of buying a new helmet?
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RE: helmet problems - 1/16/2006 9:43:07 AM
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NINE2NINE
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Kobester,
I have the CL-14 as well and had issues with the air coming in from the bottom, enough so as to cause the helmet to lift at high speeds. I'd have to go into nearly a full tuck during highway riding just to keep the wind resistance down.
i too have a cl-14 and i totally agree with the high air flow. but it sounds like you're wearing a helmet that is too large. it should never lift up and away from your head.
and as far as the air flow goes, i like it (when it's over 80). i open all the vents and leave the visor slightly open at the last notch before closed. the cl-14 is a great hot weather helmet because of the air flow but i too am in the market for a new helmet, more because of personal preference and not because of helmet problems.
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RE: helmet problems - 1/16/2006 11:51:51 AM
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stephygee
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i too have a cl-14 and i totally agree with the high air flow. but it sounds like you're wearing a helmet that is too large. it should never lift up and away from your head.
The sizing isn't the issue...I wear a medium and a small was just too tight. I don't think I was clear when stating the lift issue...when I'm going over 70, the wind lifts the helmet off my head a bit..not to the point where it would be a hazard as I have it strapped on, but the aerodynamics of the CL-14 doesn't help much. My head/helmet just jumps around a lot and I have to "chin in" to keep the wind from under my helmet. I remember my Shoei(s) fit better and were much lighter, but @ $600 a pop, getting a replacement wasn't feasible at the time. I change my helmets at least every 1.5 to 2 years regardless of wear, and my two previous helmets were Shoei, as was my first helmet. While the CL-14 is a good standard helmet, I definitely noticed the difference when I put it on.
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RE: helmet problems - 1/16/2006 12:25:05 PM
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NINE2NINE
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The sizing isn't the issue...I wear a medium and a small was just too tight. I don't think I was clear when stating the lift issue...when I'm going over 70, the wind lifts the helmet off my head a bit..not to the point where it would be a hazard as I have it strapped on, but the aerodynamics of the CL-14 doesn't help much.
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ok. understood now. i honestly had this picture in my head of you going down the road with your hand on top of your helmet to keep it from flying off! kinda funny, huh. i agree with you that the aerodynamics of the cl-14 are below average. its got the classic helmet shape (read- bowling ball.) and i too am in the market for a new helmet. one with a more pointed profile to cut the wind. i notice alot more wind resistance with this helmet over my older kbc.
and the dark helmet signiture is funny as hell. i love spaceballs.
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RE: helmet problems - 1/16/2006 1:08:53 PM
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chainstretcher
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laughin my a$$ off 
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RE: helmet problems - 1/16/2006 2:12:48 PM
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stephygee
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Seriously...look how this helmet fits!  I need a new dome! 
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RE: helmet problems - 1/16/2006 5:28:22 PM
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chainstretcher
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I'd suggest you drop some cash for a shoei but you might get a "big head" LMAO -- I slay myself sometimes
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