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HELP!! Can I weld the Engine where the Frame Sliders In... - 3/31/2008 7:09:00 AM

paddypower

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Hello all,

I have a 2003 CBR600RR. I am new to bikes and was worried I would drop it so I got Frame Sliders. Seemed like a wise idea at the time. Anyway, I was looking into another problem I was having and I noticed that the there was a crack in the 'Tube' which holds the frame Sliders and the engine to the frame (I think).

Can I get this welded or do I need to get the part replace?

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RE: HELP!! Can I weld the Engine where the Frame Slider... - 3/31/2008 10:07:32 AM

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pix?

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RE: HELP!! Can I weld the Engine where the Frame Slider... - 3/31/2008 10:15:51 AM

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It's hard to tell without pictures, but I'm trying my best to picture it in my mind, haha. If you're talking about the threaded hole that the bolt goes into, that is most likely a part of the engine itself, and if there are problems with that, you may end up having to use a heli-coil to replace the threads. If you are talking about a kind of spacer that goes between the frame and the engine itself, you may be able to find someone that can weld the crack in it, or you may have to knock the piece out and have a new one welded in? Pics may help for better advice...

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RE: HELP!! Can I weld the Engine where the Frame Slider... - 4/1/2008 1:40:19 AM

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I have up loaded two Pixs.

AS you can see, the crack is now two cracks which resulted in a whole peice falling out. It is part of the engine as far as i see.

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RE: HELP!! Can I weld the Engine where the Frame Slider... - 4/1/2008 1:45:24 AM

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And photo 2

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RE: HELP!! Can I weld the Engine where the Frame Slider... - 4/1/2008 1:41:17 PM

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Ooh, ouch, I don't know if that's possible to fix because that looks like it's part of the casting of the block itself. I don't know what to suggest to fix that ...

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RE: HELP!! Can I weld the Engine where the Frame Slider... - 4/1/2008 2:07:36 PM

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Welding cast aluminium isn't easy but it can be done. The fact is, if you can find a welder that is skilled enough to take on this repair, they will charge ALOT. I weld for a living, and i wouldn't do it unless the engine was out of the frame. The headache of pulling the motor and the cost of the repair is probably worth replacing the engine.

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RE: HELP!! Can I weld the Engine where the Frame Slider... - 4/1/2008 3:00:48 PM

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i did the exact same thing last year and i went to about 15 different places and everyone said that they would need just the block with all the internals out because of the seals and gaskets and the amount of heat needed to weld aluminum.. i took it to a body shop and 200.00 and 2 weeks later it has been fine since last year..

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RE: HELP!! Can I weld the Engine where the Frame Slider... - 4/1/2008 3:33:55 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bindelsf2

i did the exact same thing last year and i went to about 15 different places and everyone said that they would need just the block with all the internals out because of the seals and gaskets and the amount of heat needed to weld aluminum.. i took it to a body shop and 200.00 and 2 weeks later it has been fine since last year..

And what exactly did they do to it? I hope they didnt do what i think they did.

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RE: HELP!! Can I weld the Engine where the Frame Slider... - 4/1/2008 4:08:07 PM

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i took them the engine and they welded it solid and drilled the motor mount hole...they didnt mess anything up and i dragged it all last year with no problems.

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RE: HELP!! Can I weld the Engine where the Frame Slider... - 4/1/2008 6:35:12 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bindelsf2

i took them the engine and they welded it solid and drilled the motor mount hole...they didnt mess anything up and i dragged it all last year with no problems.

oh you just took them the engine. i was thinking they fixed it while it was still in the bike. $200, You got a damn good deal!! My shop would have charged you 350+ , but you wouldnt have to wait two weeks for it back either

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RE: HELP!! Can I weld the Engine where the Frame Slider... - 4/2/2008 1:25:24 AM

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That’s what I thought; this would be a big job. My Mate (A bike mechanic..... apparently) has just removed the faring to expose the engine and said it will cost me £20 to fix ($40). But that is just to put the piece back on and not to re thread it. Not sure a $40 weld is going to be very safe.

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