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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/1/2008 7:32:42 PM   
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I've been told that since honda has started moving to mass centralization, that the weight has also begun to move forward. I would think that this, coupled with bikes getting shorter, could make the BP on bikes much higher than it used to be. I know on both of my 600RR's that BP felt much higher than on my buddies older f4i. Anyone else know anything better?

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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/1/2008 8:37:40 PM   
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I don't think he is questioning what the balance point is, I think he is wondering why he can't seem to find the balance point as easy as he has in the past on his quad and other bikes he has been on.  Like I said, the balance point is much higher on my 06' 1000rr than it ever was on my r6 or my f4i.  Take a look on some other sites and see what they have to say.  I would look at 1000rr.net and stuntlife.com.  Good luck man! 


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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/1/2008 8:46:38 PM   
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OK and what im trying to say is on a ****ing quad there is a wheelie bar!!! and on my 1000 there isnt!!! a quad u fli it several times and keep riding!! a streetbike u flip it and your ****ed!! huge price diffrence from a quad....

And yes this bike is my first streetbike! This is the first motorcycle i have ever ridden! SO? whats your point. with only having 30 minutes ride time TOTAL on a streetbike i was learning wheelies. Experience does help but the rider plays a huge role! I bought the bike right outta the dealer i jumped on the highway doing 100mph. i know what can happen if something goes wrong thats why im asking where  more or less the balance point is on my bike...

and the first thing i said was do not post stuff like maybe u shouldnt wheelie!!!!! I ****ING KNOW, MY 10Y/O NIECE TELLS ME THAT!!! I KNOW IM COMING OF LIKE AN ASSHOLE BUT B4 I POSTED IN THIS THREAD  KNEW THERE WAS GONNA BE MORE NEGATIVITY THAN HELP!!!!!!

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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/1/2008 9:32:19 PM   
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you should invest in a cheap stunt bike that has already been beat to hell and have some fun on that..good practice so you dont have to worry about trashing the beautiful 1krr learning.

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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/1/2008 10:01:44 PM   
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#1 The negativity you speak of is actually people trying to look out for you, and your life. It may seem harsh but guess what we have seen it before, and people have really gotten hurt, and i hate to say it even died.

#2 There is absolutely positivly no possible way to explain to you where the balance point on your bike is with a keyboard. We don't know your weight, height, sitting position, sitting, standing, staggered, slid back on the seat, all the way forward, etc. etc. Where it is for me may not be for you, its not a huge window.  You cannot possibly get the answer here that you need. Ya just have to find it yourself, i'm sorry to say.

My advice, take the bar off your 4 wheeler and get it wired, do it backwards and blindfolded, get it on dead lock. In the meantime, learn your 1krr, get to know it, learn its tendencies. When you have the 4 wheeler on lock, hop on your 1k, find a backroad and learn yoru wheelies.

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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/2/2008 4:46:07 AM   
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the difference between and R6 and 1000rr is about 40lbs and a few inches longer. you will need to bring it up higher to compensate for the extra weight and different weight ratio.

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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/2/2008 7:53:30 AM   
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keep doing wheelies!!! here we go, i dont know how to explain it to you when your doing a stand up but if you do sitdowns i got you! cluth it sitting down and when you are not going to see the road in front of you that means that you are really close, and also its going to feel like you are not giving it any gas( throttle) but if you dont know how to control a wheelie with a rear brake dont bother you will bust your ass... if you dont know how to control a wheelie with your rear brake you need to learn how to do it. theat is only thing that could save you and your bike if u go two far, and its going to be much easyer to wheelie once you learn it......

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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/2/2008 8:00:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: xRej3cTx

OK and what im trying to say is on a ****ing quad there is a wheelie bar!!! and on my 1000 there isnt!!! a quad u fli it several times and keep riding!! a streetbike u flip it and your ****ed!! huge price diffrence from a quad....

And yes this bike is my first streetbike! This is the first motorcycle i have ever ridden! SO? whats your point. with only having 30 minutes ride time TOTAL on a streetbike i was learning wheelies. Experience does help but the rider plays a huge role! I bought the bike right outta the dealer i jumped on the highway doing 100mph. i know what can happen if something goes wrong thats why im asking where  more or less the balance point is on my bike...

and the first thing i said was do not post stuff like maybe u shouldnt wheelie!!!!! I ****ING KNOW, MY 10Y/O NIECE TELLS ME THAT!!! I KNOW IM COMING OF LIKE AN ASSHOLE BUT B4 I POSTED IN THIS THREAD  KNEW THERE WAS GONNA BE MORE NEGATIVITY THAN HELP!!!!!!


your not being an asshole..

and we are not being negative.. just go read our "fallen members" thread in the off topic section before you go doing 100mph wheelies down the street.  

you will realize we are only re-enforcing safety..  wish ya the best.. and like schmidt said..

you got the money to buy a 1krr out the door and go blowin 100 down the street, just get a cheap beat up 600 stunt bike.. that way you can destroy the thing in parkinglots or backroads.. without having to find out that the plastics on your bike cost $2500

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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/2/2008 9:26:26 PM   
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keep doing wheelies!!! here we go, i dont know how to explain it to you when your doing a stand up but if you do sitdowns i got you! cluth it sitting down and when you are not going to see the road in front of you that means that you are really close, and also its going to feel like you are not giving it any gas( throttle) but if you dont know how to control a wheelie with a rear brake dont bother you will bust your ass... if you dont know how to control a wheelie with your rear brake you need to learn how to do it. theat is only thing that could save you and your bike if u go two far, and its going to be much easyer to wheelie once you learn it......


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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/3/2008 12:56:59 AM   
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The balance point on my 1000rr is a lot higher than it was on my f4i or my r6.  It will scare the hell out of you at first, but once you get used to it, you should be fine.  Good luck!

Thats the issue i wheelie the shit outta my friends r6 for about a mile and i dont even feel like ima fall back, but on my 1000rr i know ive been to the balance point a couple times cuase ive felt that point of falling back but it scares the hell outta me


lol your a moron.. i'm sorry but if you can wheelie an R6 for "a mile" .. you wouldnt be "scared" or even asking us how to find BP.. RIP squid.


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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/3/2008 1:01:32 AM   
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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/3/2008 1:11:57 PM   
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The balance point on my 1000rr is a lot higher than it was on my f4i or my r6.  It will scare the hell out of you at first, but once you get used to it, you should be fine.  Good luck!

Thats the issue i wheelie the shit outta my friends r6 for about a mile and i dont even feel like ima fall back, but on my 1000rr i know ive been to the balance point a couple times cuase ive felt that point of falling back but it scares the hell outta me


lol your a moron.. i'm sorry but if you can wheelie an R6 for "a mile" .. you wouldnt be "scared" or even asking us how to find BP.. RIP squid.




thats exactly what i was getting at. not trying to be a dick (im sure its gonna be taken that way) but if you can wheelie a quad and a R6 all day long there should be no reason for you to be on here asking us about b/p. nothing on here is going to help you find it. you know what it is and how to go about finding it, apperantly. you've done it on two totally different machines.

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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/3/2008 4:34:40 PM   
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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/3/2008 7:57:58 PM   
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RE: Wheelie balance point?? - 4/3/2008 9:04:12 PM   
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