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wheelie prob. - 1/20/2006 5:57:58 PM

j61929

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Hello everyone. My problem is: when I try to do a 2nd gear sitdown wheelie, speed at 45-50mph, it comes up a foot. Ive tried giving it more throttle, or even holding the clutch in longer. I also have a 03,636 in which I can do sitdowns and standups all day long. Even my friends say that they have a hard time popping it up in 2nd. The only time I can bring it up succesfully is when Im going 60-65mph, in which is too fast for me. I really hope there isnt anything wrong with the bike, or could there be? help..

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RE: wheelie prob. - 1/21/2006 12:00:00 AM

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go 1 down in the front sprocket

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RE: wheelie prob. - 1/21/2006 12:05:17 AM

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I thot bout that but I shouldnt have to. you know what I mean? I just really hope that there isnt anything wrong with it. I also wanna know if its like this with everyone else with a stock 929? Ofcourse, 1st gear is no problem but Im stumped on 2nd. But maybe l will just go ahead and get the gearing. Thanx for the response tho. Take it easy brother....

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RE: wheelie prob. - 1/21/2006 1:18:20 AM

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are u giving it a lil bounce when ur tryin to get it up in second cause really u should have no prob gettin a 929 up in second with stock gearing without using clutch , or try pushin ur weight back in ur seat when it is comin up .

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RE: wheelie prob. - 1/21/2006 1:41:58 AM

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How is your clutch? Sounds like it might be slipping a bit,maybe not enough to notice except when doing these 2nd gear wheelies.While mine was stock the first 2 months I had to learn to keep it from pulling the front all the time.

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RE: wheelie prob. - 1/21/2006 1:01:22 PM

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I dont know,it might be my clutching techinique. because I can do a 2nd gear standup just fine, but when it comes to sitdowns nothing....I really appreciate all the replies and responses w/o the criticism guys, this forum is the bomb. Anyway, yeah I do scoot back when I prepare for my sitdowns. The second gear just seem so tall before I actually feel the powerband. Maybe I should have it dynoed. Whatever......Thanx guys for the support.

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RE: wheelie prob. - 1/21/2006 10:26:24 PM

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This'll sound funny, but newbe's like me APPRECIATE the fact that it takes off like hell RATHER than wheelie !! I've made a few mistakes, and this bike has forgiven me every time.

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RE: wheelie prob. - 1/22/2006 8:08:32 PM

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i am a real noob. ijust prchased my first bike a few month ago.(late aug.) first time ever on a cycle. but now i can do a throttle wheeleie in first gear but i am to scared to ride it out. but what i really wnated to if i should practice cluthing in 1st,2nd, or third gear.

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RE: wheelie prob. - 1/22/2006 8:30:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: j61929

I thot bout that but I shouldnt have to. you know what I mean? I just really hope that there isnt anything wrong with it. I also wanna know if its like this with everyone else with a stock 929? Ofcourse, 1st gear is no problem but Im stumped on 2nd. But maybe l will just go ahead and get the gearing. Thanx for the response tho. Take it easy brother....

the problem isn't with the bike. the problem is that you're trying to do 2nd gear wheelies at 45 mph. way too low in the rpm's. the gearing change will cure this but if you want to wheelie 2nd gear at slow speeds with stock gearing you have to be willing to clutch it up. or do a throttle chop/bounce then wide open.

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RE: wheelie prob. - 1/22/2006 9:52:02 PM

j61929

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quote:

ORIGINAL: NINE2NINE

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ORIGINAL: j61929

I thot bout that but I shouldnt have to. you know what I mean? I just really hope that there isnt anything wrong with it. I also wanna know if its like this with everyone else with a stock 929? Ofcourse, 1st gear is no problem but Im stumped on 2nd. But maybe l will just go ahead and get the gearing. Thanx for the response tho. Take it easy brother....

the problem isn't with the bike. the problem is that you're trying to do 2nd gear wheelies at 45 mph. way too low in the rpm's. the gearing change will cure this but if you want to wheelie 2nd gear at slow speeds with stock gearing you have to be willing to clutch it up. or do a throttle chop/bounce then wide open.

Thats the thing tho. All I do is clutch it. I d rather clutch it than bounce it. I ve never bounced any of all the wheelies I ve ever done. Specially on my 636! But it feels like my second gear is very tall. Im assuming that you are saying it is possible for this bike to be clutched up in such a low RPM. What speeds or RPM do you attempt yours on? Cuz if you are doing them almost at the same time and way I do mine, then maybe it is my technique or just minor adjustments need to be made to my clutch lever ( comfortable height and position ).

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RE: wheelie prob. - 1/22/2006 9:59:36 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: j61929

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ORIGINAL: NINE2NINE

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ORIGINAL: j61929

I thot bout that but I shouldnt have to. you know what I mean? I just really hope that there isnt anything wrong with it. I also wanna know if its like this with everyone else with a stock 929? Ofcourse, 1st gear is no problem but Im stumped on 2nd. But maybe l will just go ahead and get the gearing. Thanx for the response tho. Take it easy brother....

the problem isn't with the bike. the problem is that you're trying to do 2nd gear wheelies at 45 mph. way too low in the rpm's. the gearing change will cure this but if you want to wheelie 2nd gear at slow speeds with stock gearing you have to be willing to clutch it up. or do a throttle chop/bounce then wide open.

Thats the thing tho. All I do is clutch it. I d rather clutch it than bounce it. I ve never bounced any of all the wheelies I ve ever done. Specially on my 636! But it feels like my second gear is very tall. Im assuming that you are saying it is possible for this bike to be clutched up in such a low RPM. What speeds or RPM do you attempt yours on? Cuz if you are doing them almost at the same time and way I do mine, then maybe it is my technique or just minor adjustments need to be made to my clutch lever ( comfortable height and position ).

usually in second, i do stand ups because of the higher speeds and ability to ride it out longer. so when i stand up, im pulling on the bars. also i have a -1/+2 gearing change. i used to do sit downs at the speeds that you wanted but it took a decent clutch drop and a tug on the bars. at 45 mph though you should really try and bring it up in first and shift to second while its up. its tricky but it can be done. i suggest the gearing change. zero problems at any rpm after that. and i really dont think it has anything to do with your bike, clutch, or lever. and your 636 is geared quite a bit lower than the 929.

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RE: wheelie prob. - 1/22/2006 11:52:00 PM

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First of all stand up and just bounce it a lil and that thing well come right up. It comes up alot easier standing up. You probably don't even have to bounce it.
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RE: wheelie prob. - 1/23/2006 7:20:22 PM

j61929

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Yeah I think Im gonna go ahead and do the gearing. But nothing too drastic. You mentioned yours was at -1/+2, how much top-end did you loose? and is the added torque very noticeable? I mean ofcourse I want more torque but nothing like a 52t rear sprock. Dont want anything squirly. Not really into shifting during the process either but thanx for the suggestion. What would be the ideal upgrade regarding sprock. size? Thank you everybody.....

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RE: wheelie prob. - 1/23/2006 9:28:03 PM

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Yeah I think Im gonna go ahead and do the gearing. But nothing too drastic. You mentioned yours was at -1/+2, how much top-end did you loose? and is the added torque very noticeable? I mean ofcourse I want more torque but nothing like a 52t rear sprock. Dont want anything squirly. Not really into shifting during the process either but thanx for the suggestion. What would be the ideal upgrade regarding sprock. size? Thank you everybody.....

first off, the gearing change will not create more torque from the motor. it just allows the engine to rev quicker and will raise your rpm's at lower speeds. a 520 conversion will get rid of some weight in the drivetrain and will also allow it to rev quicker. i would start with a -1 in the front and leave the rear sprocket stock to see if you like it. you can do this without a full conversion to a different chain and not spend alot of money. as far as top end, im not the type to ride around all day at 150+ so i don't notice the loss. i can still double any speed limit and that's enough for me.

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Wheelie - 1/25/2006 11:15:52 AM

jim

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Hi, I wish I had the ability or option to attempt either a sit down or a stand up wheelie's on my current bike but my mates have tried the following to get their front wheels higher for longer.

Lighter Wheels
Shortened the swing arm
Put a bigger sprocket on the back
Improved throttle response (balanced carbs/power commander)

Although my mates invested the money wisely upon the machine I have found that when the missus is on the back of my bike the front wheel pops up when accelerating hard.
So the cheap option is to get yourself a pillion and a female one is preferable and one that can ride a bike back from the pub is even more advantageous.
An old freind has a 929 and I remember he could pull wicked wheelies in 1st but as soon as it got to 2nd the front wheel just came down, if I remeber correctly he had the clutch plates changed upon the suggestion a track day organiser dude.

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