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dumb question? - 4/11/2008 2:04:54 PM
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rons93rr
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i have what must be the dumbest question. here goes, i'm trying to get my project 900rr running i checked the motor and it is not seized, i can turn w/a ratchet fairly easy. when i try to start it the starter just fires and i get nothing from the motor at all no gluggs or chuggs. my retarded question is can i start the bike without the starter or running w/the bke and trie to put it in gear. is there a way that i can use an impact wrench to start it? i would just like to see if it's the starter and if the bike will run before i venture any further.
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RE: dumb question? - 4/11/2008 5:21:20 PM
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joshua9853
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befor you do all that try changing the spark plugs. the plugs may look good but they are probly bad. my bike dose it to me every year. ive owned my 900rr for 5 years and every year ive put plugs in it
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RE: dumb question? - 4/12/2008 2:07:15 AM
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berm
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did you try push starting? and did you check the carb?
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RE: dumb question? - 4/12/2008 5:48:13 AM
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rons93rr
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i can't push start right now because the fork seals are way gone and the front dives too much.
i did check the carbs they seemed to be working properly. if it makes a difference this bike
was running from the law across 3 counties and the previous owner ended up slamming into
the back side of a semi. there was a lot of damage to the bike most of the fairing was either gone
scratched or cracked, the oil pan was cracked all oil leaked out, radiator was totaled, front tire was destroyed,
bar end was bent, both foot peg brackets were bent, leaving a small hole in the side of the swingarm hardly noticable,
gas tank was all dented, the front braks didn't work, the front frnder gone, the headlight was missing and a small dimple in the frame.
there was more but you catch my drift. is ther anything that may have jolted loose that could have caused my problem?
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RE: dumb question? - 4/12/2008 11:26:22 AM
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berm
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yeah that all sounds pretty bad but the only thing i would say is check your cracked parts. make sure no leaks. did you start the bike freq.? you can't leave carb bikes sitting around long with out starting them opens up a whole new round of problems. i suggest getting the carb redone or atleast searching carb related probs.
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RE: dumb question? - 4/12/2008 1:29:46 PM
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Sounds a little scary trying to start it with an impact wrench...the variable speed of the wrench and what not. Definitely consult one of those 'ask a mechanic' places, at least I would.
At this point I would suspect and inspect the kill switch and the sidestand switch--both have the power to prevent fire. Obviously you need the tranny in neutral if the stand is down to start--but most likely you knew that already. I would also check the fuses, the ignition has its own, as well as the main fuse down by the starter relay on the right side of the engine. My book says check the starter relay for correct voltage, too.
Barring electrical gremlins, I would then suspect fuel delivery. 93-95 came with fuel pumps, as opposed to gravity fed vacuums on the later models. Your pump could be toast, the rubber holder things don't last very long with age--mine's only held on by one side, so yours may have died in the accident. You should be able to hear it when the starter spins, and it does have an electrical connection, so it may be fine, just not getting any power to pump with. The petcock is turned to ON or RES right?
Did you figure out the posting pictures thing yet? I could help with how I do it, at least.
< Message edited by SpiritRR -- 4/12/2008 1:37:45 PM >
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RE: dumb question? - 4/12/2008 4:19:51 PM
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slimmyslim1420
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Ya make sure your starter relay fuse isn't blown and also double check that you have the plug wires in order. Otherwise its a good possibility it is the kill switch.
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RE: dumb question? - 4/12/2008 7:44:12 PM
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rons93rr
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ORIGINAL: SpiritRR
Sounds a little scary trying to start it with an impact wrench...the variable speed of the wrench and what not. Definitely consult one of those 'ask a mechanic' places, at least I would.
At this point I would suspect and inspect the kill switch and the sidestand switch--both have the power to prevent fire. Obviously you need the tranny in neutral if the stand is down to start--but most likely you knew that already. I would also check the fuses, the ignition has its own, as well as the main fuse down by the starter relay on the right side of the engine. My book says check the starter relay for correct voltage, too.
Barring electrical gremlins, I would then suspect fuel delivery. 93-95 came with fuel pumps, as opposed to gravity fed vacuums on the later models. Your pump could be toast, the rubber holder things don't last very long with age--mine's only held on by one side, so yours may have died in the accident. You should be able to hear it when the starter spins, and it does have an electrical connection, so it may be fine, just not getting any power to pump with. The petcock is turned to ON or RES right?
Did you figure out the posting pictures thing yet? I could help with how I do it, at least.
i will definatly be checking the kill and sidestand switch. all fuses are good.
i think that the starter relay is fine because it fires no problem, it's just the motor
does nothing. i'm starting to think that the starter isn't turning the motor.
it just sounds like the starter is spinning and not connecting w/the motor.
finally yes i made sure that the gas was turned on (probly the most common
mistake to make). i also pm ed you about posting pictures. thanks
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RE: dumb question? - 4/13/2008 7:07:09 PM
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Hey Ron.
Did you have to replace the stator cover? There is a gear in there that connects the starter gear to the flywheel. The shaft for said gear is held in place by a boss in the motor case and a boss in the stator cover. It may be either missing, broken, or just out of wack. It almost sounds like your trying to say that the starter spins over and the motor doesn't. Am I wrong?
I had this issue with my 96, when I put it together. The shaft was missing on mine.
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