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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 9/27/2006 3:31:46 PM

CantBeatRidin600f4i

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Well, they're a standard size called "PLCC" they are of the SMD variety. So SMD PLCC is what you want. e-led or lc-led or the electronic goldmine is where I get mine. .50$ for a blue, .80$ for a white at the electronic gold mine

i know there plcc about there are mutiple sizes in these? i just want to know the exact size.

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 9/27/2006 10:23:48 PM

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Yes, there are different sizes, but really any PLCC will work, as the length is usually the same. I've done some comparisons here for you, price and MCD (MCD = MilliCandellas, the more the brighter)
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white is a tad narrower at .90$ a piece MCD unknown
http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G16010

where as blue is standard size at .45$ a piece MCD unknown
http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G13706

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eled.com has the most variety of any site:

They call them PLCC2 and have two different sizes under the "Single Color - Top Emitting - PLCC2" category
PLCC2 - 3.5mm x 2.8mm LED white = (150mcd) = 0.40 / PCS, high brightness (800mcd) = .68 / PCS

PLCC2 - 3.0mm x 2.0mm LED white = (150mcd) = 0.40 / PCS, high brightness (800mcd) = .76 / PCS

http://www.eled.com/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=LEDs&category%5Fname=Single+Color+SMD+LED&Page=1

Of all these categories:
Sub-Category
Single Color - Axial - Gull Wing LED
Single Color - Top Emitting LED - 0603
Single Color - Top Emitting LED - 0805
Single Color - Top Emitting LED - 1106
Single Color - Top Emitting LED - 1108
Single Color - Top Emitting LED - 1206
Single Color - Top Emitting - PLCC2
Single Color - Top Emitting - High Brightness LED
Single Color - Side Emitting LED – 0802
Single Color - Side Emitting LED – 1104
Single Color - SOT-23 LED
Single Color - SMD Subminiature LED

The PLCC2 are the normal sized and narrow sized decent to work with. The High Brightness are way too big, and all the othres are ridiculous to work with... Literally grains of salt, you need a magnifying glass and reading glasses to work with them. I don't wear glasses normally, but I borrowed some when I replaced all my headunit's 0603 LEDs with white ones.

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LC-LED calls them "Surface Mount LED - Power Top"

http://lc-led.com/Products/department/5

For white, Pricing Information: 15-99 pcs : $1.35 USD
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Looks like ELED wins by a pretty high margin... Just be careful not to heat the white ones up too much or the phosphor burns and they give off a more greenish hue instead of pure white... other than that, just physically doing it is the only hard part. Buy at least 5 more than you need, you WILL kill or lose a few I guarantee it. Even if you're an expert, They get lost easy.

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 9/28/2006 7:36:36 PM

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thanks for the sizes and such. i was gonna use the 3.5x 2.8 is there any good companies where i can order just few of each color?

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 9/28/2006 9:07:31 PM

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yeah, eled.com there is no minimum, you'll have to pick out the best brightness ones, but you'll have to pick out how many of each you want. I don't think any site has a bag of different varieties, because usually people are pretty particular. What colors do you want? I can probably find you the best ones.

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 9/30/2006 4:12:40 PM

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ultraviolet (uv), blue, ultra white see what u can find let me know. i couldnt find a plcc in UV i dont think they make them.

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 10/1/2006 2:18:32 AM

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done the kawi, rr and my f4i. f4i is the hardest by far... did the other two in 30 min. f4i took me a day.

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 10/1/2006 2:48:19 AM

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here are some pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/Chamuko/projects/DSC00577.jpg
The problem I have is that the leds are too bright and it slightly fades the lcd in a segment or two.

Also, I have several write ups and fixes i want to share but have not had an opportunioty to... some examples are
the headlight fix
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/Chamuko/projects/ignitionswitch.jpg

Dual headlight mod

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/Chamuko/projects/DSC00400.jpg

low

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/Chamuko/projects/DSC00581.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/Chamuko/projects/DSC00579.jpg

high

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/Chamuko/projects/DSC00582.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/Chamuko/projects/DSC00580.jpg

working on the aiming for that spot.

alternative to the relays ( no longer made) or if you cant find one, what might be the problem

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/Chamuko/projects/bikerelay2.jpg

only problem is, since I work and am a full time university student I rarely have time, also, Im an engineere not a writer, so while I know what I am doing, I cant quite explain it to some...

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 10/2/2006 12:04:47 PM

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quote:

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yeah, eled.com there is no minimum, you'll have to pick out the best brightness ones, but you'll have to pick out how many of each you want. I don't think any site has a bag of different varieties, because usually people are pretty particular. What colors do you want? I can probably find you the best ones.

do you know what size the other led ares the round ones for the dummy lights, are they 3mm or 5mm (looks like from the pics that they are 5mm).

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 10/5/2006 1:05:01 PM

Ocelaris

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Chamuko,
Did you desolder the LCD or just squeeze in around it? I didn't think the LCD part was removeable unless you desolder it all. Is that correct?

Looks pretty good! Probably going to do white myself also.

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 10/9/2006 3:42:30 AM

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desoldred with a solder sucker (10 bucks at most places). Just take your time. I thought about the squeeze technique, but with a hot iron anything you touch will get damaged or melted...causing more problems. Just take it slow. My friend who attempted this on his kawi pulled and ripped some of the printed circuti board... just because the solder looks like its not there doesnt mean its not there on the other side. I fixed it for him, but its a lesson for others. If it doesnt come out with say a pound or less of force, its still being held in by solder.

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 10/9/2006 9:55:23 AM

Ocelaris

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Yeah, i have one of the vaccuum solder suckers like this:

It just looked like there were like 50 pins to desolder on the LCD.

Did you desolder the tach also? Does the needle just pop off if you pull it upwards? Thanks again

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 10/16/2006 1:13:46 AM

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yes you de solder the tach as well. Dont pull the needle off as you risk not having it go back to what it was. Desolder the 4 big tabs and the small cluster of pins below that.

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 12/21/2006 7:14:08 AM

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Yeah..........I'm thinking that since a new guage cluster is a few hundred bucks, I'll just spend the $65 and have it become someone elses problem that actually knows what they are doing. LOL. I'm going with the blue tach and white LCD displays and a white needle (extra $5 bucks for the needle color change).

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 12/22/2006 12:12:11 AM

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I just finished changing everything to white, and I think shorted some of the clock pins, so have to go back and correct that, but everything else turned out hunky dory

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RE: How to change the color of your gauge LEDs - 8/27/2008 1:33:36 PM

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Im def making this one of my winter projects!!!! THANKS!

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