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Another oil Q - 1/28/2006 5:10:35 AM   
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Its time for a oil change and a car parts shop here is having a sale. They've got mobil 1 fully synthetic supersyn (its got a yellow cap) going alot cheaper than the oil I use from the bike shop. Just wondering if anyone uses it or has used a car based oil in their bike
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RE: Another oil Q - 1/28/2006 5:30:10 AM   
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Don`t use car oil in your bike mate, your bike oil deals with a lot more than car oil can also lubes the clutch plates too.

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RE: Another oil Q - 1/28/2006 5:32:24 AM   
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Thats what I needed to hear, i'll stop being tight and get the proper stuff then

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RE: Another oil Q - 1/28/2006 6:12:14 PM   
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mobile 1 fully synthetic does not have any friction modifiers in there so it's safe on your clutch. what is not safe are auto oils labeled as energy conserving oils.
i use it, many guys on this forum and all other forums use it as well.
get the 15/50 gold cap, but if you're in freezing weather, may want something else.

do a search...it's perfectly safe.

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RE: Another oil Q - 1/28/2006 10:17:11 PM   
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Yeah I did a search and thats what made me think I could use it, I wasn't sure though

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RE: Another oil Q - 1/29/2006 3:54:07 AM   
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mobil 1 mx4t

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RE: Another oil Q - 1/30/2006 10:10:28 AM   
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Mobil1 10W-30 DOES have friction modifiers.

Do not ever put a 10W30 oil in your bike.

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RE: Another oil Q - 1/30/2006 10:36:32 AM   
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we're talking 15/50 yellow (GOLD) cap...used to be red cap.
10W40 doesn't have any of that bad stuff too.
just make sure it's non-energy conserving!

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RE: Another oil Q - 1/31/2006 5:34:01 AM   
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So would Castrol GTX 10w40 be okay to run, at least for a little while???

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RE: Another oil Q - 1/31/2006 5:58:00 AM   
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i dont know. might just be me but im always going to use motorcycle specific oil. why? because it's for a motorcycle. car oil is used for lubing the engine only. bike oil is used to lube the engine AND transmission. there are different standards for oils to be classified as motorcycle oil. if the car oil met these demands then i would assume that all of the appropriate ratings would be on the label. and they aren't.

and by the way, i always use the honda 10-40. i figured that if it was good enough to be used by the factory then it must be ok to keep using it.

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RE: Another oil Q - 1/31/2006 11:49:44 AM   
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10-40 car oil is fine as long as it is not labeled as energy conserving. i don't thin any 10-40s are but still, check the label.
as i posted awhile back, one of the guys i used to ride with used dino oil for cars in his ZX10R...he always rides the piss out of it. he had his oil sent to blackstone labs after 3500 miles. they tests came back and all was fine. Just that the oil did show that it was breaking down. they recommended that with that oil and the way he runs his bike to change the oil every 2800 miles.

yes, bike engines rev higher than cars, but it doesn't mean that you can't use car oil. the higher revs will make the oil break down faster so you just need to change it more frequently...which in the end, adds up to about the same as using motorcycle specific oil. now as far as mobile 1 synthetic, i don't know of anyone who's sent it to blackstone but many guys i know that run it have had no issues with it, in particularly the oil breaking down early. I did use Valvoline a couple of times. at the oil changes, i see that the oil was super dirty and very thin, with signs that it's no longer doing it's job well. The Honda stuff was like golden still, so was the motul...and lastly, the Mobile 1...was still pretty good shape that i friend chicken in it and then dumped it.

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RE: Another oil Q - 1/31/2006 1:45:40 PM   
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just go w/ mobil 1 10w40 mx4t it's made for motorcycle

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RE: Another oil Q - 1/31/2006 2:30:20 PM   
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pssss...lots of discussion in regards to what makes a motorcycle oil a "motorcycle oil".
other than the labelling, what's different?

i would encourage your guys to do your own research and not just listen to what someone says on a board...LIKE ME!
i did do my research and i would love to post some links and what not, but i think we can't right? or can we?

my conclusion is that there's really nothing making it "motorcycle specific" other than the labelling.

do a search on google, yahoo, msn (wait...msn sucks), etc...and read what others say...in addition, there are the ones that have the scientific information to back it up.

as far as personal experience with dino oil, i do agree that they seem to break down sooner. now given what Blackstone labs said about dino oil that was used in a bike...it showed early break down but if changed at 2800 miles, no problems.

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RE: Another oil Q - 1/31/2006 2:41:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tahoe SC

i did do my research and i would love to post some links and what not, but i think we can't right? or can we?



you can post links to anything you want, as long as it is not a link to another forum. forum to forum linking- bad. forum to website linking- good. anyway, i would really like to see the links that you speak of. regardless where they are from, there is nothing wrong with pm'ing them. thanks

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RE: Another oil Q - 1/31/2006 3:20:13 PM   
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here's one of the first ones that i read as i started getting into mah bike.

http://www.yft.org/tex_vfr/tech/oil.htm

http://www.xs11.com/stories/mcnoil94.htm

but don't just read...do these yourself and see what you find. granted you may not have the money to send samplese to Blackstone, but find someone who has...hahaha...
lucky for me, someone near me with a bike did it.

check out what the oil looks like when it comes out. honestly, Valvoline was like water when it came out...granted i left it in longer...but GN4 not as golden as before but still looks good...etc. but these are only by appearances...for real tests, gots to hit the labs.



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