don't know wat air filter to run
Login  | |
|
don't know wat air filter to run - 4/27/2008 4:29:57 PM
|
|
|
HondaCBR24
Posts: 119
Joined: 2/27/2008
Status: offline
|
everyone talks about the bmc race filter but i personally like the brand k&n. i had one in my jetta and i'm jus more familar with it. wich brand do you all suggest i'm torn between the two. also if i drop the filter in w/my slip on alredy on w/o a pc is it really that big of a deal for the time being? thanks again guys
_____________________________
REPSOL HONDA
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RE: don't know wat air filter to run - 4/27/2008 7:28:39 PM
|
|
|
be vertical
Posts: 644
Joined: 8/21/2007
Status: offline
|
Good thing your CBR isnt a Jetta, or I would have to give my bike to my sister! j/p
BMC is great, washable, and really helps the bike breathe. I have the BMC and a slip on with no map adjustments and it runs like a champ, but has a bit more throttle response due to more efficient breathing.
_____________________________
On the black wind forever we ride on together destroying your evil with freedom our guide.
07 600RR .......O^o''
|
|
|
|
|
RE: don't know wat air filter to run - 4/28/2008 8:15:54 AM
|
|
|
ffingers
Posts: 2051
Joined: 6/1/2007
From: Chicago, IL (downtown)
Status: offline
|
BMC street doesn't need a remap according to BMC and neither does a K&N...however...a BMC race filter SHOULD have a remap as it breathes substantially more *according to BMC...
from what i have read K&N may adversely affect power where BMC MAY help....it's up in the air....i think to truly get the most out of it you have to get a retune as any way you slice it, you are affecting the air flow, beit more or less....
i'll be getting the BMC race with a tune in the coming months and i'll post my impressions...
_____________________________
See bike diary!
Recent Bike Pics HERE!
My Buddy = Hayden06f4i
|
|
|
|
|
RE: don't know wat air filter to run - 4/28/2008 10:02:00 AM
|
|
|
HondaCBR24
Posts: 119
Joined: 2/27/2008
Status: offline
|
thanx guys..well pretty much wat my main quetion is at the moment is running an aftermarket filter w/o tuning gunna really negitivitly effect performance. i plan on gettin the pc3 but would rather wait if its gunna make a negitive difference.
_____________________________
REPSOL HONDA
|
|
|
|
|
RE: don't know wat air filter to run - 4/28/2008 10:05:18 AM
|
|
|
ffingers
Posts: 2051
Joined: 6/1/2007
From: Chicago, IL (downtown)
Status: offline
|
i doubt it would adversely affect you if you are running a K&N or BMC street...it will be "better" with a tune, but i would DOUBT it would hurt anything...a lot of guys run them without a tune..and since you'll be getting the PC3 at some point, i wouldn't worry..but that's just me...
i'll likely run my BMC race for at least a week or so before i can get a tune, soo.... 
_____________________________
See bike diary!
Recent Bike Pics HERE!
My Buddy = Hayden06f4i
|
|
|
|
|
RE: don't know wat air filter to run - 4/28/2008 11:48:02 AM
|
|
|
HondaCBR24
Posts: 119
Joined: 2/27/2008
Status: offline
|
eh u sold me..i'm sure ur right. i'm pricing a pc3 as we speak..thanks again
_____________________________
REPSOL HONDA
|
|
|
|
|
RE: don't know wat air filter to run - 4/28/2008 12:26:09 PM
|
|
|
ffingers
Posts: 2051
Joined: 6/1/2007
From: Chicago, IL (downtown)
Status: offline
|
yeah i think it's a good upgrade...not going to get you a lot of HP or anything...but it's nice to know you have a higher quality filter in there....granted...as i said before...there are quite a few bits saying that the stock paper filter is the best...primarily because the bike is set for a specific air/fuel ratio and changing that even slightly could be good OR bad....however...since you will be getting a PC3 and able to either download a map for the filter you are running or can get it tuned...i think it will be more than fine to run...
besides...you won't be pushing your bike hard enough i think to really make the engine act funny with a minor air/fuel ratio change...but definitely get a map just to be on the safe side and to get optimal performance...
_____________________________
See bike diary!
Recent Bike Pics HERE!
My Buddy = Hayden06f4i
|
|
|
|
|
RE: don't know wat air filter to run - 4/28/2008 11:08:00 PM
|
|
|
Papi Chingon
Posts: 351
Joined: 11/4/2007
Status: offline
|
the race filter helps the bike breath better, and i've read that you shouldn't get one for street use because of dust. could someone please touch on that subject for a second? personally, i'd love to help the bike's power in any way i can, but if it hurts the bike in a street environment, obviously, it's a no-go.
_____________________________
sex panther - it''s made with real bits and pieces of panther, so you know it''s good! 60% of the time, it works EVERYTIME!!!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: don't know wat air filter to run - 4/29/2008 8:27:24 AM
|
|
|
ffingers
Posts: 2051
Joined: 6/1/2007
From: Chicago, IL (downtown)
Status: offline
|
i don't know papi, i was thinking the same thing...that being said, i asked the shop that is going to tune my bike if it's cool to run the race on the street and he said it would be fine....however....that was just sort of in passing on the phone...before i order, i am going to call again to talk to them about it to make sure, i'll post what they tell me...
_____________________________
See bike diary!
Recent Bike Pics HERE!
My Buddy = Hayden06f4i
|
|
|
|
|
RE: don't know wat air filter to run - 4/29/2008 1:35:41 PM
|
|
|
HondaCBR24
Posts: 119
Joined: 2/27/2008
Status: offline
|
interesting poing..i'm gunna look into it myself. if i hear anything i'll let u guys kno
_____________________________
REPSOL HONDA
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RE: don't know wat air filter to run - 4/29/2008 2:17:19 PM
|
|
|
ffingers
Posts: 2051
Joined: 6/1/2007
From: Chicago, IL (downtown)
Status: offline
|
well looking at the K&N by the stock filter and the BMC, the surface area for airflow is much smaller....so it is impossible that it could breathe better....
the reason why they say stock is better is because our bikes are tuned within very small specs and to throw on a filter that will dramatically adjust the fuel/air ratio will cause a performance dip....that being said, the bikes are tuned according to a clean stock filter...nothing else....now...if an aftermarket can breathe a little easier, it would be best to get a tune to compensate....i would never get a tune to compensate for a worse fuel/air ratio as alleged with the K&N...but the BMC supposedly breathes easier and adds some performance...from what i understand, the street doesn't "need" a tune...but i personally would STILL get one...or even just a map for a BMC filter as i am sure it changes things at least slightly...
the BMC race is much more breathable substantially changing the air/fuel ratio and supposedly REQUIRES a tune to compensate for it...
hope that all makes sense....if you need more info let me know...there are sites that compare these things
_____________________________
See bike diary!
Recent Bike Pics HERE!
My Buddy = Hayden06f4i
|
|
|
|
|
Printable Version
