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jaynd -> "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 8:21:33 AM)
so me and a friend were out riding yesterday on some backroads. we turned onto one of my favs and hit the 1st turn.....then noticed a black SUV behind us. i thought nothing of it, but my friend said he noticed it was a cop. i hit probably one more turn pretty hard after that and then questioned if it was a cop myself. so we began doing the speed limit exactly. for about 3 miles he followed us and i thought to myself that he was probably calling for backup or to position some cars up ahead. after following us for quite some time he filnaly pulled us over and he informed us that in our county, they now are allowed to "pit manuever", hit, bump you if you run.....that they are allowed to pursue. he said they are the ONLY county in the state of MD that is doing this. i looked back at his SUV and thought to myself "you better have a hell of a suspension setup and a rocket in the back" lol. the cop was nice as hell for the most part. he said most of the cops will give warnings if you simply pull right over (which i do, i'd NEVER run....only end 2 ways and both are no good). he mentioned that he pulled a sportbike over the previous day for doing 93 in a 55 and since the man pulled over he gave him a written warning and let him go on his way. i was just shocked that they'd actually try to "pit manuever" a bike, lol.

rrasco -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 8:40:44 AM)
I thought about that too, but thought that would just be about the equivalent as taking a few shots at them. I didn't realize anybody actually considered doing it though.

jutsin -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 9:07:48 AM)
Wow might as well try to put a bullet in the head of someone in a cage running from them then. That's a messed up policy, they better only do it if the guys running from a murder scene or something.

dizzie56 -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 9:11:08 AM)
a couple months ago they did that to somebody that a chick on the back, think it killed both of em. i dont run either, not worth it...unless your allready goin 120 and the cop is just sittin on the side of the road, dude will never catch up if you just take the next exit and a couple of turns.

fishfryer527 -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 9:11:42 AM)
Another reason someone needs to sell tungsten bullets.

jaynd -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 9:27:23 AM)
i wanted to tell him that if he were to do that it would prob kill the person instantly....gotta figure if he does that, there's a good chance he's gonna run them over. ah well, 'nother reason not to run.

ikhoudvanu199 -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 9:32:04 AM)
that sucks that its allowed...ive seen it done on a few high speed chase videos on tv...but i dont know if its ever been policy and im with dizzie...i wont run unless im already goin crazy fast and the cops just sitting there...take the next exit and make yourself scarce if i cant see the red and blue lights...theyre not chasing me[;)]

WXT -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 9:33:02 AM)
Which county in MD is that?

CourtJester -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 9:34:58 AM)
I live in MD what county is doing this. I would not run just good to know.

Bumble Bee -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 10:15:48 AM)
That is just messed up and could kill someone. I would never run, but I have passed a cop going the other way and I was gonig very fast so I did not stick around to find out is he was going to try to get me. I like what was said " If I don't see lights then it's not running"

MikeInCtown -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 10:30:09 AM)
If they ever did that there would be a lawsuit filed so fast that the county would go boke defending itself against deadly use of force. I think the guy was BSing you guys and trying to see if the number of runners would change if if word got out.

slip_ -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 11:07:16 AM)
By the way, 'friend' <----- lmao.. I believe that's Calvert County, right Jason? lol.. "You realize your registration has been expired for over a year son..? Ooppss sorry I can't read, it's been expired since.. Oh a week ago... Well if your registration wasn't expired for over a year I wouldn't have to write you a ticket.. Crap what the hell am I say... It hasn't been a year, I'll just let you off with a warning." WOOHOO hahaha, wish I had a warning for my 78 in a 55.

slip_ -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 11:08:59 AM)
lol as long as pit manuevers don't include radio'ing another SUV cop, and having him head on lmao. That would not be good hahaha.

TBFGhost -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 4:39:09 PM)
It may be challenged in court and if they ever do it and it will be ruled illegal. To perform a PIT on a bike is crazy because you are VERY likly to kill or cause serious injury to the rider(s). In order for a PIT to be used the criteria for using deadly force(eg a gun) must be met. And inorder for the police to used deadly force on someone who is fleeing them they must be a threat to the police or the public. IE a person fleeing the scene of a crime where they have already shot or shot at someone and they are still carrying the gun while running away, the police would be perfectly fine legally putting three rounds into the back of that guy. They cannot shoot a fleeing suspect if said suspect is fleeing without a weapon and/or do not pose a serious threat to the public. THEREFORE, to me, you CANNOT use a PIT manuever on a fleeing rider UNLESS that person is weilding a gun or weapon or somehow poses a serious threat to public saftey. The bike fleeing alone does pose a threat large enough to justify killing the rider and or passenger as well as the risk to the public when the police vehicle itself is in a high speed pursuit....if the bike hits another car, that car's occupants will be just fine, HOWEVER, if the police vehicle giving chase slams into another car....that could cause problems..... so there is kind of a double wammy against using a PIT here.....I personally don't think it is constitutionally legal in using deadly force in this case and it puts the public at risk where is really should not be. And as far as I know, PA, NY and NJ you are not even allowed to do a PIT on anything let alone a bike. You have to think about it this way. Can a police officer shoot a speeder just because they where speeding and won't stop? Are they allowed to pull you over, say you were speeding, you were doing 56 in a 25, put a bullet in you head and walk away? NO, HELL NO, therefore if they start a chase and end it with the rider dead, haven't they done the same thing if they knew that chasing said rider would end up killing them and what do you think the odds are that a PIT would end up with the rider dead? basically, if anyone wants to put up any kind of fight it will be ruled illegal......

TBFGhost -> RE: "pit manuever" a bike?! (5/8/2008 4:44:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dizzie56 a couple months ago they did that to somebody that a chick on the back, think it killed both of em. i dont run either, not worth it...unless your allready goin 120 and the cop is just sittin on the side of the road, dude will never catch up if you just take the next exit and a couple of turns. Not to be a dick, but I find this hard to belive....are there any articals on it? Do you have any more info?

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