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RE: Sport Rider Mag. Liter bike Shootout - 5/11/2008 6:02:37 PM   
Bishop1981


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I agree red08.  The 08' CBR is lighter than the 06' by far. and, it has to make more power.  Like I said earlier, I saw one at the Honda House.  It's light just like my old 954 was.  And, that was one of the lightest bikes Honda has made.  I tell ya, that 954 was pretty damn awesome.  I wish I would have kept it.  But, I traded it on my 06 1000rr.   I didn't want to have 2 bikes because the insurance would have been too much . But, after the fact, I realized, all I had to do was finish paying the 954 off and get liabilty on it, which would have been only $40 a month.  I only owed like 4 grand on it.  they gave me $5,000 for it.  Which only took $1000 off the 06'.  After tax, tag, and title, I still financed $10,500.  I went in there a few weeks later and they had a $7000 price tag on my 954.   I really F$&cked up on that one......haha

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RE: Sport Rider Mag. Liter bike Shootout - 5/11/2008 9:01:59 PM   
woogie



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quote:

ORIGINAL: red08

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ORIGINAL: jgolo

I think the HP number is lower due to a new HP rating scale that changed a few years ago where all motervehicles look lower, because of some "universal" rating where you can actually believe the differences between a Honda and Toyota. I am sure this applies to bikes as well.


The peak horsepower number is low because Honda retarded the timing at around 10,500 rpm for reasons not yet made clear.  The UK bikes that did not get the timing retard make 160 rwhp and no '06 or other 1000RR comes close stock for stock. 


I'd bet you a dollar that the good 'ol EPA had a little something to do with that. At any rate, a PCIII could fix that, but I've seen a video talking about what a b#$ch it is to install a PCIII on the '08.

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RE: Sport Rider Mag. Liter bike Shootout - 5/12/2008 2:28:03 AM   
red08

 

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ORIGINAL: woogie

I'd bet you a dollar that the good 'ol EPA had a little something to do with that. At any rate, a PCIII could fix that, but I've seen a video talking about what a b#$ch it is to install a PCIII on the '08.


There are all kinds of speculation regarding the why but no matter what the reason I would expect Honda to come clean about it instead of playing dumb.  A Dyno Jet ignition module as well as the PCIII is needed to re-gain the "missing" spark advance.  All told it is about $500 worth of stuff that could have been better spent on suspension, gear, track time, etc.  I have also read on another forum about what a beeyotch it is to install the PCIII on the '08 ... removing the airbox and such. 

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RE: Sport Rider Mag. Liter bike Shootout - 5/12/2008 9:04:08 AM   
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I wouldn't get to worked up about it, most of the things that were problems on the CBR08 in the Sport Rider Literbike Shootout, were not problems in the other Literbike Shootouts. They probably got a bike from Honda with a few problems. If 1 out of 8 Shootouts have a few problems with the Honda that none of the others had, it's probably just  isolated problems on that one Bike. Let's see, in future tests, if the Honda has the same suspension and other problems they metioned in Sport Rider Mag, than I would say those problems to be an issue. In real the world and on other Forums, I have not heard these same problems Sport Rider Mag is saying to be an issue.

Horse Power I would not give a Rat's Ass about, The Honda beat all those bikes on the track by a pretty good margin. What would you rather have a Bike with 175rwp that does 1:45.9 or 155rwp that does 1:44.0 on the track.

The Kawasaki always has the most horses, for years that's been true. What's also true is they rarely win any races in World Superbike, AMA Superbike, or MotoGP for that matter.

Real World Again....... I had an 06CBR1000RR and most of the other riders I ride with have Suzuki's(GSXR's, HayaBusa's) and one other guy has an 06 ZX10. None of them can beat me, I also have like 23years experience to their like 2 to 4 years of riding. All of there bikes have more horsepower than mine, doesn't bother me none in the least. Where there power is none of them have the capability of using on the road (top end).

My buddy with the ZX10 let's me ride it when I want to, I will say you can feel a big difference in the power of his motor compared to my 06CBR1000RR. I just can't get it to the ground without feeling like it's going to through me off like a ragdoll, really scary feeling when riding his bike hard to the limits. It gives you no confidence in riding it hard like that. My point is what good is all that power if I can't use it and feel safe while doing it.

Give me the Honda's all day long with their useable horsepower, all of it.

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RE: Sport Rider Mag. Liter bike Shootout - 5/12/2008 10:59:24 AM   
Will1000RR



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ORIGINAL: RICHS65

I wouldn't get to worked up about it, most of the things that were problems on the CBR08 in the Sport Rider Literbike Shootout, were not problems in the other Literbike Shootouts. They probably got a bike from Honda with a few problems. If 1 out of 8 Shootouts have a few problems with the Honda that none of the others had, it's probably just  isolated problems on that one Bike. Let's see, in future tests, if the Honda has the same suspension and other problems they metioned in Sport Rider Mag, than I would say those problems to be an issue. In real the world and on other Forums, I have not heard these same problems Sport Rider Mag is saying to be an issue.

Horse Power I would not give a Rat's Ass about, The Honda beat all those bikes on the track by a pretty good margin. What would you rather have a Bike with 175rwp that does 1:45.9 or 155rwp that does 1:44.0 on the track.

The Kawasaki always has the most horses, for years that's been true. What's also true is they rarely win any races in World Superbike, AMA Superbike, or MotoGP for that matter.

Real World Again....... I had an 06CBR1000RR and most of the other riders I ride with have Suzuki's(GSXR's, HayaBusa's) and one other guy has an 06 ZX10. None of them can beat me, I also have like 23years experience to their like 2 to 4 years of riding. All of there bikes have more horsepower than mine, doesn't bother me none in the least. Where there power is none of them have the capability of using on the road (top end).

My buddy with the ZX10 let's me ride it when I want to, I will say you can feel a big difference in the power of his motor compared to my 06CBR1000RR. I just can't get it to the ground without feeling like it's going to through me off like a ragdoll, really scary feeling when riding his bike hard to the limits. It gives you no confidence in riding it hard like that. My point is what good is all that power if I can't use it and feel safe while doing it.

Give me the Honda's all day long with their useable horsepower, all of it.



I second this....enough said..  thanks Rich..

I'm completely satisfied with my 08' 1k and its plenty of fun....

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RE: Sport Rider Mag. Liter bike Shootout - 5/12/2008 11:44:00 AM   
Eminent

 

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I am another very satisfied customer of the 08.. Its unreal in power to weight ratio,, turns better than my 600!!

I think it is "deceptively fast" with a smooth powerband and good mid-range.  The bike is F*(&*ng fast!

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RE: Sport Rider Mag. Liter bike Shootout - 5/12/2008 12:55:06 PM   
Will1000RR



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ORIGINAL: Eminent

I am another very satisfied customer of the 08.. Its unreal in power to weight ratio,, turns better than my 600!!

I think it is "deceptively fast" with a smooth powerband and good mid-range.  The bike is F*(&*ng fast!



lol..this is what im talking about...i honestly think once you ride this bike will know what we're talking about...

in terms of the power ...the crazy torque this bike delivers...

ive been riding on/off since 1980's and this machine by far is the BEST ive riddin....



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RE: Sport Rider Mag. Liter bike Shootout - 5/12/2008 5:01:49 PM   
nickoli

 

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I dont need a mag to tell me how effin awesome my new 08 cbr1000rr is - all the bikes are just about the same - the real difference is how you ride it. in my town every kid has a effin suzuki - iv had 3 of them myself - so when honda came out with this baby I jumped all over it.

HONDA FTMFW BABY

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