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RE: K&N: anyone heard of this? - 6/27/2008 6:43:59 PM   
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k&n is the the shiz . i want one so bad... but i wont get one until i can afford it and a pcIII. that way i can get a map for it and my pipe and therefore have all the right air to fuel ratio that is needed.


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RE: K&N: anyone heard of this? - 6/28/2008 5:35:01 PM   
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I run K&N air filters in every vehicle I own and never had a problem. Also run a K&N oil filter on my F4i. 

I thought the knock on them is they flow MORE air, providing less filtration and the possiblitity of sucking debris in your engine.

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RE: K&N: anyone heard of this? - 6/28/2008 6:09:52 PM   
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I run K&N air filters in every vehicle I own and never had a problem. Also run a K&N oil filter on my F4i. 

I thought the knock on them is they flow MORE air, providing less filtration and the possiblitity of sucking debris in your engine.
Now this is a possibility IF it isnt cleaned & recharged like it should be.


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RE: K&N: anyone heard of this? - 6/28/2008 6:16:01 PM   
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Personally, I have heard too many bad with the good for me to go with K&N. K&N have been shown to actually decrease hp in the 1000RR. Personally, I would go with BMC. In reallity, I am still with my stock filter.

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RE: K&N: anyone heard of this? - 6/28/2008 6:21:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Onarom

Personally, I have heard too many bad with the good for me to go with K&N. K&N have been shown to actually decrease hp in the 1000RR. Personally, I would go with BMC. In reallity, I am still with my stock filter.
I''m willing to bet the bad dyno results were from ppl who didnt like K&N to start with.

K&N''s have flowed better on everything I have ever installed them on. And that list ranges from VW powered sand rails (open system), street bajas(open system), street bugs, small block chevys, and a few diff bikes.

And I think if they decreased performance they would have stopped selling them LONG ago or corrected any issues with their filters. Hell I never heard of BMC until last year so...


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RE: K&N: anyone heard of this? - 6/28/2008 7:33:04 PM   
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You might be right or it could just be a fluke with the 1000RR. But I haven''t heard about BMC until last year either. I am just regurgitating what I have heard from other people.

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RE: K&N: anyone heard of this? - 6/29/2008 8:39:18 AM   
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oil type filters CAN ruin sensors in your intake.

i dont think its much of an issue on a bike though, more so on cars.

heres what heppens.

you have your oiled filter (K&N, AEM, W/E) you have your car running producing a vaccum on the intake pulling air from beyond the filter and getting clean air after it, ALSO mixed with small particles of filter oil, over time they can gum up on the mass air flow sensor(MAF) which reads resistance though a small heated wire in the intake to determine how much air you are flowing to calculate how much fuel the fuel system needs to be producing.

SO when you gum up your MAF then you start getting erronious readings from the sensor.
as long as you have the time to remove the sensor every once in awhile to clean it off then  you should be fine (id also take a look at the throttle body as well, i have seen buildup on both)

im not very familiar with these bikes but thats how it can cause problems on vehicles.

im not trying to bash K&N or anything, its jsut a problem with all oiled filters, just stating the facts and what i have seen from personal experience.


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RE: K&N: anyone heard of this? - 6/29/2008 9:22:27 AM   
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Tell ya what... you want a sever more opinions, pictures of the different filters (very enlightening!), and some real information about air filters for bikes... then go to another thread I started several months ago... find it here...

http://www.cbrforum.com/m_506871/tm.htm

Oh, and so you know, the BMC picture IS of the race filter.


< Message edited by Lrn2Go -- 6/29/2008 9:35:22 AM >


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RE: K&N: anyone heard of this? - 7/1/2008 5:49:03 PM   
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well, listened to and read a lot of ideas...   heres my conclusion:  anyone wanna buy a new K&N??  I have one for sale...  brand new  in the box

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RE: K&N: anyone heard of this? - 7/3/2008 9:19:52 AM   
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I have never heard of that either.
Ask him "how does this hurt the engine"
see what he responds.


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RE: K&N: anyone heard of this? - 7/10/2008 4:45:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: i3enny

well, listened to and read a lot of ideas...   heres my conclusion:  anyone wanna buy a new K&N??  I have one for sale...  brand new  in the box


How much you want?

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RE: K&N: anyone heard of this? - 7/10/2008 9:40:31 PM   
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Sometimes the OEM is better in the situation of bikes. I know for my R6 the KN allowed just way too much air it would run lean. I would stick OEM unless you''re dyno sure that it will help. I love K&N on my car though...

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RE: K&N: anyone heard of this? - 7/16/2008 11:02:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Xuracing

I have never heard of that either.
Ask him "how does this hurt the engine"
see what he responds.




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