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Adding a slip-on...do I need a Power Commander? - 6/14/2008 3:50:58 PM

R6WS6

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I''ve got an ''08 CBR1000RR (contrary to my username lol) and I''m about to order the Two Brothers slip-on. I''ve heard that just a slip-on will require adding a Power Commander but I can''t imagine it affects air/fuel that much. Anyone know if it''s really needed? Thanks in advance! :)

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RE: Adding a slip-on...do I need a Power Commander? - 6/14/2008 5:09:17 PM

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No it is not "needed", it will run just fine without. Slip on''s alone are mostly for sound not performance, although it will breathe a bit better then stock.

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RE: Adding a slip-on...do I need a Power Commander? - 6/14/2008 7:45:11 PM

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ypu will see a gain in power with a PCIII but you would also see a gain with the stock exhaust and a PCIII.
You dont have t get one, but if you wanted to get one it wouldnt hurt.

All depends on what your looking for Verses the cash your willing to throw at it.

Personally i recon the bike has enoug power for 95% ofpeople out there (me included) but eveyone likes a great soundng exhaust

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RE: Adding a slip-on...do I need a Power Commander? - 6/16/2008 5:51:30 PM

SD2007

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The only way you''ll really know is to install the system and take O2 readings. A PCIII won''t do anything for a stock bike except clean up the low RPM range a little.

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RE: Adding a slip-on...do I need a Power Commander? - 6/17/2008 8:39:02 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: R6WS6

I''''m about to order the Two Brothers slip-on.

first of all save your money and buy a good pipe. if it is going to make noise make sure it makes power too.

as for the PC as stated not required but you get to maximize the bike with or with out a pipe with a custom map.

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RE: Adding a slip-on...do I need a Power Commander? - 6/17/2008 8:52:51 AM

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yep as all stated above. Except I disagree about the power commander not doing anything for a stock bike. If you just download a map, then yes, it will only clean up the throttle response a bit. But, if you do an actual dyno tune on a stock bike with a power commander, you can see pretty amazing results. I''ve seen as much as 8 hp throughout the rpm range and a 6 hp gain on top end with an otherwise stock R6. You can also really clean the power curve for better drivability.

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RE: Adding a slip-on...do I need a Power Commander? - 6/17/2008 10:46:00 AM

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talking about a good exhaus what about the jardine RT1 for an 07, 1000rr????
is it a good exhaust ??

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RE: Adding a slip-on...do I need a Power Commander? - 6/17/2008 3:20:52 PM

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quote:

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No it is not "needed", it will run just fine without. Slip on''''s alone are mostly for sound not performance, although it will breathe a bit better then stock.

a slip-on such as jardine fits ure description-my 06 with an arata s/o and custom mapped definetely changed power output

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RE: Adding a slip-on...do I need a Power Commander? - 6/17/2008 5:33:41 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: justasquid

yep as all stated above. Except I disagree about the power commander not doing anything for a stock bike. If you just download a map, then yes, it will only clean up the throttle response a bit. But, if you do an actual dyno tune on a stock bike with a power commander, you can see pretty amazing results. I''''''''ve seen as much as 8 hp throughout the rpm range and a 6 hp gain on top end with an otherwise stock R6. You can also really clean the power curve for better drivability.

Well... A CBR isn''t an R6. I''ve logged over 100 miles on my CBR, collecting AFR, throttle position, and RPM data with my laptop in a backpack. I''m not seeing any deficiencies in the CBR''s fuel delivery that would rob us of any free horsepower. Has someone dyno''d a stock bike before and after installing a PCIII? If there are gains to be had, I''d love to know what kind of map change they made.

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RE: Adding a slip-on...do I need a Power Commander? - 6/17/2008 6:47:46 PM

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