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RE: can i use spray paint. - 2/13/2006 10:59:42 PM

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lol yes u must sand ur primer b4 paint with 600 wet sandpaper and water, paint will not stick to the dry primer espcially from a spray can. as well spray can primer u must spray a few coats not just one big one. and prefurably sand lightly between coats too. sanding helps all the next coats bond properly especaily paint .

and yes 2 part putty is kinda like bondo basically bondo is good for doing your shaping and molding work to make it look how u want, problem is is that bondo is very porus and when it dries it has lil pin holes . So u can apply a 2 party putty otherwise know as finishing putty it is very fine and fills in all the lil holes and makes a much smoother non porus surface . so when u prime it wont want to sink in later and go crappy looking. as well bondo sucks for adhering to plastic but for some reason 2 part putty bonds to it pretty good ,basically because it has more polyester resins in it , wheich is what plastic is made from as well. So if ur doing body work on to bare plastic then use the finishing putty instead of bondo u can get finsihing putty where ever u get bondo just read the labels or ask. and yes evercoat is prolly one of the best makers of those kinda supplies like garydogwood was saying.

As far as clear coat goes if u buy the colour u want in a spray can and it is gloss or shiney then u are fine if u want u can wet sand it with 1200 and put a few coats of clear over top to give it a lil extra shine and add some protection from scratching as u can always buff out lil scratches from clear easily . but wetsanding silver or golds then clear will show lil scratch marks under the clear . so what u have to do there is right after ur done spraying ur colour on spray on 2 cots of clear give it at least a few hours really i would say a day , wet sand that lightly just to remove the shine (just dont sand through to the colour) then put 2 or 3 more coats . after that it should look pretty good and if it doesnt let it dry wet sand and try again as long as u have clear on u can keep wet sanding it and clearin it till it looks mint . or u can just keep doing it to make it look even shinier and deeper espcially on black .

Oh ya back to what infomous asked yes if it is painted already , just sand the sine off with 600 sandpaper prefuraqbly wetsandpaper with water and just paint right over top. sorry just tryin to answer a few peoples questions all at once so youll all kinda have to pick out what parts u were looking for out of my clutter of a post lol

Here i posted some pics of a r1 i just finished , give u a goal to try match lol just takes practice and time [image][/image]

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RE: can i use spray paint. - 2/14/2006 7:50:20 AM

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this thread contains a wealth of information. speedy, nice paint booth you have there. i feel like painting again

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RE: can i use spray paint. - 2/14/2006 7:31:45 PM

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thanks i tried to give advice as best i can , but there are so many different things that can change every process depending on what colour of paint and type of products you use . i just tried to give a basic outline of procedures to go by hope it helps some people out somewhat. we just put the booth in this year it is a spray bake booth , positive pressure downdraft with a computer controlled bake cycle it is a real nice booth to paint in , i enjoy it . later

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RE: can i use spray paint. - 2/18/2006 6:49:56 PM

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well i went ahead and strated, but it dont look too good. i sanded the tail down with a "medium" sand square thing. it looks like sand paper wraped around a square sponge. then i used "fine" sand paper. i cleaned it all off used a lil more of the fine. then started to paint. the paint was runnin in certain places and i started to see silver dots come through in other places,did i do something wrong? is this normal??

Sorry if i sound like a complete idiot on this topic. i've never painted body work, so this is my first time

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RE: can i use spray paint. - 2/18/2006 7:23:35 PM

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RE: can i use spray paint. - 2/18/2006 7:58:40 PM

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Hey Speedy. would you mind typing out here what you told him? Im about 2 days away from primer and paint and I dont want to screw it up :) im new at this as well and your post inspired me to paint and fix everything on my own. Check my gallery for a few pics of the rebuild and repaint of the left and right fairings....lots of Fiberglass Repair and lots of Bondo!!!!! Thanks again for all the advice!!

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RE: can i use spray paint. - 2/19/2006 11:46:26 AM

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RE: can i use spray paint. - 2/19/2006 11:48:32 AM

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lol k if u are using spray can primer, do not load it on do a light coat let it dry up a bit and do it again and again. one big coat is asking for trouble it is also a good idea to to lightly sand between coats too.. Helps each coat bond better to the last coat . once it is primed and very dry . sand it with 600 sandpaper , i do it wet with water especially if your using dpray cans. then go to paint , as far as tips for spraying paint cans well youll have to figure that out on ur own if u get runs or other stuff in the paint just let it dry till next day wet sand it and try again, any other stuff u may wanna know is still in this thread somewhere have fun good luck

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RE: can i use spray paint. - 3/3/2006 7:36:29 PM

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i use a product called plastic welder, made by devcon, u can pick it up at your locak walmart, it's like a 2 part epoxy, just mix it up, and apply it, then sand it sooth, holds real well to abs plastic

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hey i got a question about drops.. what happens when you get get some deep scratches in the fairings? just bondo it? because i dont know how plastic really works, I usually work with metal...

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RE: can i use spray paint. - 3/15/2006 5:44:25 PM

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any suggestion on where and what kind of spray gun and compressor to buy?

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RE: can i use spray paint. - 3/15/2006 10:17:54 PM

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hahahaha and the age old question , how much money u wanna spend , i have some guns that are over 1000 dollars a piece and are built just to spray a certain type of clear , or base , and some guns for certain temperatures , and a good devilbiss compressor will run u about 5000 dollars dual piston 4 stroke , then u will need a air dryer , thats aprox. 1500 and then a decissant air cleaner and whirlwind partical cleaner for the airline when it gets to the booth that will run u about 1300 , then u will want a 3/4 inch diameter airline , it atomizes ur air better especially for a good finish with a hvlp or rp paint gun, thaose airlines are about 4 dollars a foot , grand total 8,700 dollars b4 you buy your ailine or supplies hahahahahaha

option 2 take it to professional shop , pay the guy what he wants to do it properly with all his years of experience and expensive tools he bought , and save your self the headache and hassle of tryin to do it your self and acomplish the finish doing soemthing u have no idea doing

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RE: can i use spray paint. - 3/16/2006 10:19:30 AM

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im not looking to paint all the time so i just need a gun for one kind of paint. i know they have cheap guns out there i just dont have the experience to know what i need. thats why i am asking you. i just want to do a two-tone job, black and red like the '06 600RR. I AM going to paint my bike myslef, so what would be the best route to go if i was going to get the equipment.

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RE: can i use spray paint. - 8/21/2007 11:35:35 PM

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Great info!

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