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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 8:06:44 AM

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Or you could do what was always meant to be done with AR-15/M16 model "toys" and throw them away. Get yourself a real mans gun.

Like something from Europe, lets say FN or H&K.

.223 is for small deer or children, not combat.

And don''''''''t even get me started on the open bolt, non-gas piston return system with forward bolt assist. A rifle so horribly flawed it needs a manual bolt assist to make sure the bolt has seated into battery (pitiful).

If you need a bolt flap(guard) to keep dirt out of the chamber, than that is a badly designed rifle. Ask yourself how many high-quality, famous, well known rifles actually have bolt guards..... try and even think of one.

"Well its hyper accurate!" So is a M1 Garand(and dont bullshit me on the "semi-" factor, most AR-15''''''''s on the market today are either semi as well or if you want to spring for it, a whopping 3-round burst!), or M-14... You can even get the M-14 redesigned into the SOCOM-16... See the real bad asses of the military know whats worth using.

and for ****s sake, isn''''t this a honda motorcycle forum? jesus.

The .223 FMJ is an armour piercing round it is made for combat, but the fact that the people we are fighting dont wear armour it has the potential to go right through them, or bounce around inside of them and cause for a bad day. We recently lost a fellow soldier in my Battalion due to the fact that he was accidentally shot in the abdomen and the bullet bounced around inside of him and came out of his neck. The forward assist comes in handy on those days when your out and you get sand in your weapon and the round doesnt chamber all the way, just tap that lil sucker and it''s in. This rifle was made for combat the dust guard is just an extra protection type of deal, its a quality rifle that has proven itself many of times since vietnam. The .223 round is gonna give you more accurate shots on a rapid fire than the 7.62 will which is why we dont use that in the military and the fact that we can carry more rounds of .223 than the 7.62

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 9:20:28 AM

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Buy a bazooka its better...

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 9:25:09 AM

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.50 caliber or go home.

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 10:45:22 AM

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notice that the idiot quit posting.

hey hatebreed did you find the answer you were looking for. the topic was heading in the right direction until the idiot showed up.

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 1:58:11 PM

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I was actually looking to get an AR15 that one of the guys is selling till he told me the price, WOW, those guns are sure pricey, I''ve been shooting my sks for 2 years and never had a problem with it, and the ammo is cheap, and the price that I paid for it I could''ve gotten 4-6 sks''s for the price of ar15, but ar sure does look good though.

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 2:20:42 PM

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I was actually looking to get an AR15 that one of the guys is selling till he told me the price, WOW, those guns are sure pricey, I''''ve been shooting my sks for 2 years and never had a problem with it, and the ammo is cheap, and the price that I paid for it I could''''ve gotten 4-6 sks''''s for the price of ar15, but ar sure does look good though.

AR''s can be expensive. It depends on what kind you are buying and what all it has on it or done to it. If you think the AR15 are big $$$$ check out the .308 AR platforms like AR10''s.

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 2:27:05 PM

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^^ i paid a grand for mine. but he gave me a discount because i do alot of business with him and i had a few things done to it. but a grand is about average.

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 3:39:10 PM

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A grand for the AR15 or the AR10? I have 3 AR15 and they were right around 1100-1200 each. All have run flawless. My AR10 once it is done will be pushing the $1800 mark.

The AR15 is a great platform.

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 3:54:14 PM

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an AR15. the guy took money off for me though because i do alot of business with him

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 4:30:38 PM

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not the best damn looking thing on the market, but the original AK 74 break the round cylinder with two or three holes with what looked like a funnel shoved in it . Yes, that damn ugly one. If I remember correctly, in some tests actually showed it reduced muzzle climb significantly and a few years back it was offered for the AR platform. but can not Remember who was manufacturing it though

ive seen these, i think del-ton or bushmaster makes some. but i want something that looks good too haha it doesnt have to be the best working seems how im not in life or death situtuation with it. and i deff. dont use it for home. i gota remington 870 18" with 7rd tube for that.

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 4:32:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: hellboytt

I was actually looking to get an AR15 that one of the guys is selling till he told me the price, WOW, those guns are sure pricey, I''''ve been shooting my sks for 2 years and never had a problem with it, and the ammo is cheap, and the price that I paid for it I could''''ve gotten 4-6 sks''''s for the price of ar15, but ar sure does look good though.

without bells and whitles you can get a decent one for 600-700. u just gotta buy a lower reciever than buy a rifle kit from del-ton.com or something like it.

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 4:33:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: asidari

notice that the idiot quit posting.

hey hatebreed did you find the answer you were looking for. the topic was heading in the right direction until the idiot showed up.

ahah yah i got some ideas thanks people. and ima find out if that one bushy makes fits if it does problem solved.

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 5:11:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: fbeatty1
To the original poster, my favorite flash hiders are the Yankee Hill Phantom or the Smith Enterprises Vortex. I don''''t know your state or if they allow them, but you may want to give them a try. Are you looking for just a flash hider or a compensator or brake?

i have seen that yankee hill one, and it looks good. i had that idea on the back burner. the vortex thing just doesnt look fancey enough haha.

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 11:17:19 PM

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I was thinking of buying this one for a couple of days or so, what do you guys think it''s worth?

the gun was built by JSE of gordonville, missouri Rock River Arms lower and parts kit, 20'''' bushmaster fluted bull barrel, ergo sure grip OD, magpul double adjustable sniper stock OD, vented quadrail fore arm OD, bipod, center point tactical mil-dot scope red and green illuminated with scope covers, 2-30rd clips with stainless follwers, 1-15 rd clip, 100rds of 55gr. ballistic tips just under 100 rd of reman FMJs.

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 11:36:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: hellboytt

I was thinking of buying this one for a couple of days or so, what do you guys think it''''s worth?

the gun was built by JSE of gordonville, missouri Rock River Arms lower and parts kit, 20'''''''' bushmaster fluted bull barrel, ergo sure grip OD, magpul double adjustable sniper stock OD, vented quadrail fore arm OD, bipod, center point tactical mil-dot scope red and green illuminated with scope covers, 2-30rd clips with stainless follwers, 1-15 rd clip, 100rds of 55gr. ballistic tips just under 100 rd of reman FMJs.