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ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/4/2008 2:35:39 PM   
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i kinda wanna get a different flash hider for my ar-15. would it change my pattern? any suggestions on which one i should get?

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/4/2008 4:23:00 PM   
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I have a bushmaster ar-15 with a Y-comp on it. I LOVE it.

http://www.bushmaster.com/products.asp?cat=8

Go there, scroll down to the LAST one at the bottom of the page.

As far as it changing your pattern, I suppose it''s a possibility, but I''m not very sure.


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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/4/2008 4:40:01 PM   
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that looks sweet. should i use a crush washer or peel washer? and when they say made for preban... i have a del ton upper. idk if that will be the correct thread.  Are all of them the same????????  ima a cali gun owner *sigh* so theres always weird rules and stuff. But anyway. will that fit this?




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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/4/2008 4:56:04 PM   
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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/4/2008 5:32:15 PM   
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"These brakes are for barrels with muzzles threaded 1/2" x 28 T.p.I. (threads per inch)."
I guess find out what you have, then if that''s the same as this... go for it!
Or call bushmaster and ask them. If not, they might be able to cut one that will fit your gun.
I know a lot of their stuff fits most other guns.
As far as washers go, I think I have a crush washer on mine.


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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/4/2008 6:16:13 PM   
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i sent an email to del ton, the company i bought the kit from. they should be able to tell me. thanks for the help that thing looks really good, ill get it if it fits.

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/4/2008 7:34:21 PM   
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Or you could do what was always meant to be done with AR-15/M16 model "toys" and throw them away.  Get yourself a real mans gun.

Like something from Europe, lets say FN or H&K.

.223 is for small deer or children, not combat.

And don''''t even get me started on the open bolt, non-gas piston return system with forward bolt assist. A rifle so horribly flawed it needs a manual bolt assist to make sure the bolt has seated into battery (pitiful).

If you need a bolt flap(guard) to keep dirt out of the chamber, than that is a badly designed rifle. Ask yourself how many high-quality, famous, well known rifles actually have bolt guards..... try and even think of one.

"Well its hyper accurate!" So is a M1 Garand(and dont bullshit me on the "semi-" factor, most AR-15''''s on the market today are either semi as well or if you want to spring for it, a whopping 3-round burst!), or M-14... You can even get the M-14 redesigned into the SOCOM-16... See the real bad asses of the military know whats worth using.

and for ****s sake, isn''t this a honda motorcycle forum? jesus.


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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/4/2008 8:13:08 PM   
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thats why we have an off topic F*&^ head for just this reason.  its not all about motorcycles.  hence the OFF TOPIC

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/4/2008 8:34:40 PM   
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What a ****tard.  Ya for a target pratice gun let me get the biggest ****ing ammo I can find.  Dumbass.     People say my sks that shoots 7.62x39 is a "pussy" bullet but I can dam well kill with it.   You wanna be a test subject?


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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/4/2008 8:46:02 PM   
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quote:

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Or you could do what was always meant to be done with AR-15/M16 model "toys" and throw them away.  Get yourself a real mans gun.

Like something from Europe, lets say FN or H&K.

.223 is for small deer or children, not combat.

And don''''''''''''''''t even get me started on the open bolt, non-gas piston return system with forward bolt assist. A rifle so horribly flawed it needs a manual bolt assist to make sure the bolt has seated into battery (pitiful).

If you need a bolt flap(guard) to keep dirt out of the chamber, than that is a badly designed rifle. Ask yourself how many high-quality, famous, well known rifles actually have bolt guards..... try and even think of one.

"Well its hyper accurate!" So is a M1 Garand(and dont bullshit me on the "semi-" factor, most AR-15''''''''''''''''s on the market today are either semi as well or if you want to spring for it, a whopping 3-round burst!), or M-14... You can even get the M-14 redesigned into the SOCOM-16... See the real bad asses of the military know whats worth using.

and for ****s sake, isn''''''''t this a honda motorcycle forum? jesus.


I''''m going to take a well-educated guess here and say this is the ramblings of an armchair quarterback absolutely no offense but you should take into consideration those who have fielded the weapons platform you are bashing, who has also had the opportunity to field and handle the other weapons systems you refer to. First let me say. If you believe, a 5.56 mm weapons platform, can''''t whittle an individual of even your size down to the point where you take a dirt nap. You''''re a damn fool. Second of all, the AR weapons platform has made leaps and bounds in its last generation of evolution you seem to be a big HK fan. I''''m sure part of your opinion is based on their development of a AR platform I own HK as well as Olympic. Hell. I even have a registered A bolt UZI if you doubt my knowledge on the subject. I suggest you take a few minutes of your time and review this thread click on the attached photos were our poor forum has decided not to display them anymore. They are still there as a attachment
http://www.cbrforum.com/m_400014/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm

if you doubt the long-range capability of AR platform here''''s a video that started a hell of a debate here
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzFkMIOzu_o&feature=related


HB, it is possible to alter your pattern, but NOT likely. May, I ask what is the purpose for the change


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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/4/2008 9:20:07 PM   
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well i there are some cool looking ones out there i guess is why. not really needed. but i like to rapid fire that thing as much as the next guy so the decrease in muzzle rise will help. its just a lil toy. so why not add a bell or whistle or two.

as far as shooting people and all that the guy with 2 posts haha i dont shoot anything living with that xcept squerrils and if my "POS" malfunctions, thats okay. another praire dog or some paper is saved whooped de big f''n deal. 223 for deer ahahha thats kinda dumb the biggest thing i would hunt with 1 223 is a antlope. and as far as real guns go, i like my 700vls lol. i hadnt noticed that this was a m/c forum lol. go yell at people in the thong and cleavage showdown too, i dont think they are talking too much about hondas in there.


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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/4/2008 9:30:35 PM   
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not the best damn looking thing on the market, but the original AK 74 break the round cylinder with two or three holes with what looked like a funnel shoved in it . Yes, that damn ugly one.  If I remember correctly, in some tests actually showed it reduced muzzle climb significantly and  a few years back it was offered  for the AR platform. but can not Remember who was manufacturing it though

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 4:33:53 AM   
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isn''''t this a honda motorcycle forum? jesus.




Big J don''t need guns. He zaps cocky posters with frickin'' laser beams...fizzzzackkkk!

5.56 FTW


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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 6:25:15 AM   
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have you ever shot an automatic weapon before??? there''s a reason the military went to 3 round burst... in Vietnam soldiers were emptying an entire magazine to kill one person.... it''s called round conservation...

and the theory behind the M855 ball (Or SS109 in the civilian market) is that it splinters apart when it enters the body and causes more damage than just the hole. People over here in Iraq have been shot with a 5.56 in the hip and it ricochets along the spine and into their brain. Another case was when a soldier was shot in the foot by an ND and it traveled up his leg and tore apart the femoral artery and he bled to death within seconds... so even though it''s not big, it does plenty of damage... oh.. and our M-16''s before we switched to the M-4''s.... were made by Fabrique National!!!... Holy S*&%.. and the M249 SAW STILL IS!!!!....All .223.... hmmm

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RE: ar-15 question... hardcorp? Shocktroop? - 7/5/2008 7:21:22 AM   
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Or you could do what was always meant to be done with AR-15/M16 model "toys" and throw them away. Get yourself a real mans gun.

Like something from Europe, lets say FN or H&K.

.223 is for small deer or children, not combat.

And don''''''''t even get me started on the open bolt, non-gas piston return system with forward bolt assist. A rifle so horribly flawed it needs a manual bolt assist to make sure the bolt has seated into battery (pitiful).

If you need a bolt flap(guard) to keep dirt out of the chamber, than that is a badly designed rifle. Ask yourself how many high-quality, famous, well known rifles actually have bolt guards..... try and even think of one.

"Well its hyper accurate!" So is a M1 Garand(and dont bullshit me on the "semi-" factor, most AR-15''''''''s on the market today are either semi as well or if you want to spring for it, a whopping 3-round burst!), or M-14... You can even get the M-14 redesigned into the SOCOM-16... See the real bad asses of the military know whats worth using.

and for ****s sake, isn''''t this a honda motorcycle forum? jesus.



Sorry but you sound like a troll...

Yes this is a motorcycle site, but this is an off topic forum. Since it is off topic, i guess that means that topics other than motorcycles can be discussed.

As far as the AR15/M16 goes. it has been doing well for 40+yrs. The M14 is a marvelous gun, but has faults of its own. By the way, AR15 are semiautomatic and you can get them in anything you want as long as you pay the steep price thanks to federal law. Three round burst or full automatic are available to civilians in the form or Drop in auto sears, lightening links and registered receivers. All have to be registered and have been made prior to 1986 due to the law. The military can get what ever it wants.

Before you come in and trash another persons thread and possessions , get a clue. Ever hear the saying if you don''t have anything good to say then don''t say anything at all?

To the original poster, my favorite flash hiders are the Yankee Hill Phantom or the Smith Enterprises Vortex. I don''t know your state or if they allow them, but you may want to give them a try. Are you looking for just a flash hider or a compensator or brake?

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