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08/07 vs older models - 8/25/2008 2:04:38 PM    Pootie Tang   Posts: 15 Joined: 8/25/2008 Status: offline Hi, i am a beginner rider and currently thinking of purchasing a cbr 600RR. I wanted to buy a used one but heard that 07 and 08s are a lot safer/easier to ride than the older models. Does anyone know anything about this that can provide more detail? Thank you. Post #: 1

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/25/2008 2:46:55 PM    tomp Posts: 672 Joined: 2/27/2007 From: Oregon Status: offline CBR''''s are know for being forgiving. The main difference''''s between the new and older models are in weight and performance, with the new one''''s being lighter and having a more powerfull engine. < Message edited by tomp -- 8/26/2008 11:35:03 PM > _____________________________ "If you want the ultimate, you''ve got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It''s not tragic to die doing what you love." Xbox Live Gamertag: CRIMSON FACE Clan: CBRf (in reply to Pootie Tang) Post #: 2

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/25/2008 4:51:21 PM    Blue Fox Posts: 4570 Joined: 7/14/2006 From: Las Cruces, NM Status: offline Yes, the they are easier to learn on compared with other bikes (like the R6 and Kawasaki), but they are by no means "easy" to ride for a new rider.........just "easier" than some other bikes. 600RR''s, no matter the year, are extremely powerful and twitchy, and can kill you just as fast as any literbike......so don''t underestimate them for a second. So that brings us to the question, can a 600RR be a first bike? Sure. I myself pretty much started out on an 06 600RR and grew as a rider from there, but I was also extremely submissive to it''s power and capabilities of killing me if I did anything brave or "stupid" on it.........one wrong move and it''ll piss off the bike. But that brings us to another question, is the 600RR a "good" choice as a first bike.......not really. There are better choices to be had for first bikes. But that doesn''t mean it''s impossible......it really all depends on the rider and the head on his/her shoulders. And with that being said, the answer to your main question...... No, the 07/08 600RR''s are not "easier" to ride. They handle better and have more power. The main difference between the 03-06 and 07/08 is the difference you feel in weight. The 03-06 models feel heavier and larger than it''s more petite, lighter on it''s feet 07/08 models. But that in no way comprehends to being "easier" to ride. If you are bent on getting a 600RR as a first bike, I would recommend taking an MSF course (and a proper one at that). Not some B.S. course you have to take just to get your license, but a full on class that actually TRAINS you to ride a bike, not just see what you know. I took the Rider''s Edge course offered by Harley Davidson and MAN is that a great class. They teach you all the basics from the ground up so there is no guess work and no bad habits to be learned. THAT is where I would start first, regardless of your past experiences with motorcycles or how much you think you know about them. I retook the course after 2 years of riding, and I was amazed of how many bad habits I taught myself over that time. I was doing things wrong that could have potentially caused me to wreck. So training is a must before taking on a sportbike. Other than my hugemongous post, I''m pretty sure I covered everything. _____________________________ Want the LED headlamps? http://cbrforum.com/m_681535/tm.htm Powder Coating TOO! (in reply to tomp) Post #: 3

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/26/2008 6:59:39 PM    pbn85   Posts: 15 Joined: 8/15/2008 Status: offline Ok I must step in now... The 07/08 rr is WAY lighter than the 03/04.  The 07/08 is lighter than the 05/06 but the 03/04 weigh more than both models.  I have an 06 and yes, immediately upon sitting on the 07/08 you''''ll notice its lighter.  On paper its a 15lb drop in weight between the bikes (05/06 v. 07/08). Performance wise, the 03-08 are pretty comparable and similar.  All run the 1/4 in mid-10 seconds.  About the power, honestly its not much of a difference between the bikes.  Im not defending what I have.  In fact, I think my friends new gixxer 600 is more powerful than my bike but not by much.  My other buddy who has an 07rr rides my bike and I ride his and he said power wise its the same thing but his feels lighter which I def. agree.  I kinda like the firm feeling of my 06 though. The 600rr isnt the best choice for a beginner bike.  Heres my story: I learned on my buddies 250ninja while he was on vacation.  I had it for 2 weeks only and then picked up the 600rr, thinking I was ready.  I bought my bike too early though because I was scared shitless of riding it.  You shouldnt fear riding your bike; that means you''''re not ready for it.  I would see it in the driveway just staring at me and I would be too scared to ride it.  When I finally did ride it I didnt go over 20mph for a few days because I was scared due to the sensitive throttle.  So to get the point, I wasnt ready for the bike.  It took months of riding it around the block to get used to it and comfortable with it. < Message edited by pbn85 -- 8/26/2008 7:02:31 PM > _____________________________ 06 600rr (in reply to Blue Fox) Post #: 4

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/26/2008 8:18:19 PM    Gville George Posts: 446 Joined: 8/14/2007 From: Gainesville, FL Status: online ^yeh, being scared of you bike is not a good thing. but being bored as hell with a bike isn''t any fun either. my ''03 rr was the first bike i owned. you won''t be disapointed with the ''03, its plenty of bike and handles amazing. as far as safety, its not very safe, any sport bike is not safe, they are not good for learning, but its not out of the question. take the MSF. it will teach you alot, and it also might let you know if you could handle a 250, and by that i mean that in the sense that, would it drive you insane to go slower then a minivan? for me, it would. oh and one more thing. go with an older CBR (not OLD as in 89, but older then 07/08), it will hurt your wallet less and you won''t feel as bad when you drop it, which you will. (in reply to pbn85) Post #: 5

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/26/2008 11:33:45 PM    tomp Posts: 672 Joined: 2/27/2007 From: Oregon Status: offline Def buy used. Dont buy a 250. You''ll be tired of that bike in a few short months. Take MSF courses. If your so scared you cant get out of first gear you shouldn''t be riding in the first place. All bikes are dangerous, riding is not for eveyone. I believe all Begginers MSF courses provide the bikes. Take that course before buying your own bike. If you can hack it go for it. _____________________________ "If you want the ultimate, you''ve got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It''s not tragic to die doing what you love." Xbox Live Gamertag: CRIMSON FACE Clan: CBRf (in reply to Gville George) Post #: 6

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/27/2008 10:15:12 AM    Red_SC   Posts: 3 Joined: 8/27/2008 Status: offline quote: ORIGINAL: tomp Def buy used. Dont buy a 250. You''''ll be tired of that bike in a few short months. Not necessarily.  I didn''t really want to get a 250 to start with as I''m a typical male and like acceleration, but found a good deal and ended up getting one anyway.  2.5 years later I still have it, and although I''m starting to look for a new bike, I don''t want to get rid of it.  No, it''s not slower than a minivan, but it''s not a drag bike either.  But man, will it tear up a mountain road!  And, if you do something dumb and rash it up, you haven''t lost months or years of savings.  Besides, you can easily get your money back selling it a couple of months later. Nothing against getting a bigger bike if that''s what you want, but don''t think you''re going to just hate a 250.  Find a mountain road, and it''ll make you grin! (in reply to tomp) Post #: 7

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/27/2008 10:18:55 AM    asidari Posts: 560 Joined: 3/13/2008 Status: offline i started out on a 600rr.  the main thing to remember is dont get cocky on it.  as long as you have a good head on your shoulders and dont try to do anything stupid then you should be ok.  I would strongly recommend taking the msf coarse.  i did and im glad i did.  it teaches you alot of stuff that you really dont think you need to know but is very important to riding.  _____________________________ 08 grafitti 600rr Hot Bodies flush turn signals Zero Gravity double bubble smoke windscreen Pazzo Levers competition werkes fender eliminator kit honda racing rear seat cowl MORE TO COME... CBR FORUM BUDDY- shoortbuss (in reply to tomp) Post #: 8

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/27/2008 12:40:23 PM    skitzofrenzy Posts: 723 Joined: 4/11/2008 From: 916 sacramento, california Status: offline 600rr is not a starter bike. no 600 superbike is. too aggressive. too powerful, too dangerous for a new rider. i dont care if someone else has done it and turned out ok, its not a beginner bike you will do what you want, but in my opinion, and in many other memeber''s opinions, a rr is NOT a beginner bike, not a good choice to start riding on, and a very unforgiving bike. now, i mean this with the best intentions tho. i would just suggest getting a less aggressive bike, like an f4i or an older model cbr. cheaper to fix when you DO drop it, enough power to make even the most experienced person smile, and looks good. i would def take an f4i.... _____________________________ 2001 F4i~RIP ~ (in reply to asidari) Post #: 9

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/27/2008 8:52:13 PM    redcbr07 Posts: 53 Joined: 7/18/2008 Status: offline my first bike is my 07'' 600rr and i learned to ride it right when i got it unloaded off the truck. the other thing was i was learning to ride in rush hour, man was i scared, but after acouple of hour i got used to it. Wasn''t the smartest thing to do and im not telling anyone else to go and do that either. i couldn''t tell you about any other bike, but whatever you plan on getting make sure its the right one FOR YOU!.... _____________________________ (in reply to skitzofrenzy) Post #: 10

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/27/2008 10:04:06 PM    pbn85   Posts: 15 Joined: 8/15/2008 Status: offline yea a 600, esp. the new ones, are so powerful that I cant imagine ever stepping up to a liter bike.  Ive smoked everything and anything (cars) with my lil sixxer.  It does the job for me.  But like I said, I got the bike way too early.  I should have stuck with the ninja for a lil bit longer.  Not to sound like an ass but you will 99% drop your bike and it will most likely be at low speeds.  I dropped it turning from a complete stop at a stop sign and I ended up putting my legs up at like 2mph (LOL) and I leaned the bike a bit too much.  PLOP to the floor...thank God that was the 250.  If it happened on my 600 I would have hated myself. _____________________________ 06 600rr (in reply to redcbr07) Post #: 11

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/27/2008 10:12:22 PM    tomp Posts: 672 Joined: 2/27/2007 From: Oregon Status: offline People buy liter bikes as first bikes and turn out to be great riders. Its not in the bike its in the Rider and the Riders mentality. If your a tool normally your going to turn out to be a squid on a bike, regardless of how many cc''s the bike has. Buy what you want, dont let someone on this site talk you out of getting what you want. Everyone has opinions here and they will voice them and you''ll recieve a lot of good info, but your opinion is really the only one that should matter to you. No one is going to flame you for buying a 600RR as a first bike. Cant stress enough how important MSF courses are. _____________________________ "If you want the ultimate, you''ve got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It''s not tragic to die doing what you love." Xbox Live Gamertag: CRIMSON FACE Clan: CBRf (in reply to redcbr07) Post #: 12

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/28/2008 7:37:58 AM    Stay2ned   Posts: 97 Joined: 5/30/2008 Status: offline Any bike, a 600, liter bike, old or new will only go as fast as you twist your wrist. I grew up riding quads and some dirtbikes so my first bike when I was 17 was 91 Honda Hawk 647cc V-twin. I KNEW I was going to go down cause I was going to ride in a way that I would. So I wanted to get experience on a slower bike. I went down on that bike 3 times, got my experience, learned my lessons and now I have an 08 Graffitti. If you''re scared of a bike, you''re going to ride very cautiously which isn''t a bad thing as a beginner but l i k e ^^^^ said, if you''re afraid of riding in general, it''s not for you. I would reccomend an f4i, those bikes look so good but aren''t as aggressive as the RR''s. Cheaper, easy to find parts if you lay it down and will have plenty of bike to keep you happy. Make sure to take the MSF course l i k e they ^^^ all said as a new rider and be sure to get some good gear. Good luck man, keep us posted. _____________________________ Est. in 85...Ridin red and only red since 88...Doin work son! 08 CBR600RR Graffiti Yoshimura Header Back-Carbon Fiber PCIII K&N Filter Flush mount smoked turns up front Smoked Tail light Sliders front and back Xbox: Stay2ned (in reply to tomp) Post #: 13

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/28/2008 9:44:20 AM    Starleak   Posts: 146 Joined: 8/15/2008 Status: offline Just browsing the 600rr forum and saw this. My opinion: If your starting out, most DEFINATELY take a MSF course. Then I would recommend a USED bike. And best starter bike other than the Ninja 250, a Honda F4i. One of the most forgiving bikes around, and it''s a bike you can keep for a long time. I have an 01, and kept mine when I bought my 1000rr. The F4i is just a great jack of all trades bike. Can''t imagine getting rid for it. And it sure isn''t slow. I''ve embarrassed a few 600rr riders on my F4i. The rr''s are faster, quicker, etc, but a good rider on a F4i can still come out on top. I''ve even embarassed quite a few liter bikes on it. My brother in law has the 07 600rr. I''ve ridden it. Yeah, it''s super light, nimble, etc. Good power for a six. And yeah you could get away with it as a first bike. But something older and more used it better. Most likely you are gonna drop it. And the 01-03 F4i still look modern and wont bust your budget. _____________________________ Current bikes in my garage: 2007 Honda CBR1000RR 2001 Honda CBR600F4i 2006 Honda 50 "stunt" bike Past CBR''s: 1997 Honda CBR600F3 2002 Honda CBR954RR (in reply to Stay2ned) Post #: 14

RE: 08/07 vs older models - 8/28/2008 4:26:03 PM    skitzofrenzy Posts: 723 Joined: 4/11/2008 From: 916 sacramento, california Status: offline ^ahmen. i did have another short write up lst night  but it failed. all in all basically take ^his advice...which is all of ours.. but in a cooler, nicer way of saying it. i would of loved to keep my f4i, too bad i couldnt afford both bikes. if i get more finacially stable im def gonna buy another one for fun. its just a good bike and looks bad @ss. and yes take the msf please. it will help you out alot and keep another fellow rider safe. get some gear and have fun _____________________________ 2001 F4i~RIP ~ (in reply to Starleak) Post #: 15

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