RE: who is a vigalante?
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RE: who is a vigalante? - 8/25/2008 9:15:37 PM
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tomp
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Two years riding experience huh? Dude must be gettin ready to be scouted by AMA, lol
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RE: who is a vigalante? - 8/25/2008 10:48:39 PM
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socale30
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Ok...I was going to stay out of this, but I had to share this:
Last monday, I was riding through Hillcrest to North Park..on University (for those of you who know the area, you know how bad it can get around there, and for those who don''t know...its a busy street, off street parking, 2 lanes in each direction...lots of pedestrians/distractions...). It''s about 7.30 in the evening, and im crusing down in the left lane. I see a lady start to pull out from the curb, about 40 yards ahead of me. Shes easing into the road, staying in the right lane. I slow down (to about 5 below the speed limit), and watch as she gets closer. When I''m about 10 feet behind her (shes driving really slow, maybe 5-10 mph), she suddenly goes into my lane. I move over to the left a little, staying in MY part of the double yellow. She keeps coming at me. I''m now in the oncoming lane, less than a foot from her window, on the horn. I''m just staring at her...she...get this...has her head turned, looking to the right, not even aware she was in my lane. We coast to a stop, she looks over, sees me, and burns out tearing ass around teh corner.
Here is where my story has a point:
At the next light, a guy on a scooter pulls up next to me. I cant hear him with the helmet on and the exhaust from the bike, so I kill the motor. He''s concerned about what he just saw...''dude, are you OK? Did she even SEE YOU? man...you''re lucky she didn''t hit you''. As hes saying this, a green Jetta pulls up in the next lane...lady rolls down the window and yells out ''OH MY GOD!!! We''re SO happy you''re safe. That crazy lady ALMOST HIT YOU?!?!? OH MY GOD...ARE YOU OK?!?!?''
At thi point, I''m the (smart) victim of an idiots actions. Now, had I removed her mirror or kicked in her door...I would have looked like your typical sport bike riding asshat you find on the roads of San Diego. Its not the first time I''ve been run off the road in SD (actually, once was on purpose...the guy wanted to start something with me, but got scared when I accecpted his challenge to fight)....but it was the first time I didn''t retaliate. the last time I gave somebody the finger for entering my lane while i was in it, he tried to run me down (well, I actually turned and gave him 2 hands worth of ''Fvck You''). the moral of my story: take the high road, and you''ll get sympathy. I can almost guarantee that if I had retaliated, I would have 1, looked like an ass, and 2, received no sympathy, and 3, probably would have had my plate called in for attacking an old lady.
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RE: who is a vigalante? - 8/26/2008 4:42:17 AM
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f44life
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for u people that decided to run there mouth as always on this forum i asked a simple question and i wanted to hear what people have to say about dum drivers. i DO admit speeding up was stupid when that guy wanted to pass me. But after i hit 150 and let off he decided to chase up my ass about a foot from my tail and passed me on the right. We were both in the wrong. I didnt ask for u to dissect my every word and english grammar. i dont care how long uve bin on the road doesnt give u the right to run ur mouth. If u were smart u would give me respect and shut ur mouth and keep ur comments to ur self old man. I have bin riding on the two wheels for 10years and 2years on the pavement. So i dont understand wtf ur problem is with me asking a simple question. If u wanna ****ing rant on someone and judge somewhere just by how they asked a question do it elsewhere. Other then thnks for the responses keep em up.
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RE: who is a vigalante? - 8/26/2008 5:32:25 AM
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woo545
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This morning, I had to bring the cage to work, because I need to make a stop on the way home.
I am in the right lane and there was was pickup in front of me and a pickup the left ("The guy"). The guy was not passing, he was just sitting next to me...he would pull forward and drop back, but never leaving me enough room for me to feel comfortable enough to get in front of him. I wasn''t too concerned about it. A couple of times he rode right next to me, matching my speed. We were probably doing about 55 or 60 in a 55. Another car comes up behind the guy and starts to tailgate him. The car flashes his brights at the guy, so the guy brake checks him. After a couple more incidents like this, the guy decides to finally move ahead of the pickup in front of me. The tailgater makes his move and accelerates hard to pass. So, of course the guy decides to accelerate to prevent the pass, but the car changes lanes anyway when there is about a foot of overlap between the car and the truck (Trucks bumper is about a foot in front of the cars rear bumper).
So then the guy slams on his brakes and swerves to the left to avoid the accident, then right to get back on the road (causing the truck in front of me to brake) then proceeds to tailgate the car and starts flashing his highbeams. At the next light, that passenger in the car gets out and the guy gets out of his truck. I''m too far back to see what is going on, but no fight actually takes place.
The way I view this is the guy is violated 2 maybe 3 laws (Racing, impeding traffic and traveling in the left lane and not passing), plus possible wreckless endangerment in order to prevent someone else from violating 1 law. In the process he gets on the ire of not 1 but possible 2 or 3 other cars. Keep your self-righteous ass in the right lane!
The thing to keep in mind, people do stupid things when the are angered or scared. Why do that crap. Just let the car pass. Don''t be a prick. You don''t know if they other guy is in a rush to get to the hospital or they just drives fast. It''s not worth your life or the lives of others.
I will admit, I tend to travel in the left lane on my bike, but I will get over if someone is moving faster than me. I fear that person that''s going to come out of that road on the right, because they can''t see me through the vegetation.
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RE: who is a vigalante? - 8/26/2008 6:04:35 AM
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Shadow
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Geez, talk about thick-skinned !
Listen, asshat, these men are trying to teach you a short lesson in survival,
in direct proportion to your enormous intellect,
so if you don''t like the heat, STAY THE FVCK OUT OF THE KITCHEN
Use the time for spelling and grammar lessons.
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What a d1ckwit
Where''s HC when you need him ?
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RE: who is a vigalante? - 8/26/2008 6:17:12 AM
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51plymouth
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quote:
ORIGINAL: f44life
for u people that decided to run there mouth as always on this forum i asked a simple question and i wanted to hear what people have to say about dum drivers. i DO admit speeding up was stupid when that guy wanted to pass me. But after i hit 150 and let off he decided to chase up my ass about a foot from my tail and passed me on the right. We were both in the wrong. I didnt ask for u to dissect my every word and english grammar. i dont care how long uve bin on the road doesnt give u the right to run ur mouth. If u were smart u would give me respect and shut ur mouth and keep ur comments to ur self old man. I have bin riding on the two wheels for 10years and 2years on the pavement. So i dont understand wtf ur problem is with me asking a simple question. If u wanna ****ing rant on someone and judge somewhere just by how they asked a question do it elsewhere. Other then thnks for the responses keep em up.
This is fun ...here we go again.
"for u people that decided to run there mouth as always on this forum i asked a simple question and i wanted to hear what people have to say about dum drivers." And you did, I told you how I feel about unattentive drivers, stating "Yeah, that''s what car drivers do, hence the multiple rant threads on any motorcycle forum. They rarely are aware of the world going on outside their box...that''s why you have to stay vigilant out there." There, look...my own words in quotations.
"i DO admit speeding up was stupid when that guy wanted to pass me. But after i hit 150 and let off he decided to chase up my ass about a foot from my tail and passed me on the right. We were both in the wrong." That''s very big of you. I''ll admit I was in the wrong for casting dispersions about your dick size...that was unnecessary.
"I didnt ask for u to dissect my every word and english grammar." You''re right, you didn''t. But you posted on a public forum, which means your post is now out there for the world to see. And, really, had I wanted to, I could have been about 100x times harsher, believe me.
"i dont care how long uve bin on the road doesnt give u the right to run ur mouth" You''re right, it doesn''t. The First Amendment in the Bill of Rights does that. And you asked for opinions...you got mine...doesn''t mean you have to like it.
"If u were smart u would give me respect and shut ur mouth and keep ur comments to ur self old man." If you were smart you would have come on here showing some class and respect for the road, at which point I/we would have shown you respect in return...you''ve got to give it to get it. Instead you come on here talking about how you''re going to start kicking doors and how you won''t let people pass...then wonder why people (not just me) rip your ass. Respect is EARNED, not given. And, for the record, I''m not that old (turn 31 this year)...got started really young...not that it really matters.
"I have bin riding on the two wheels for 10years and 2years on the pavement." Good for you, ride safe, and I hope you have many more. Starting breaking mirrors and kicking in doors, I guarantee you won''t last much longer.
"So i dont understand wtf ur problem is with me asking a simple question." My problem is not with the question so much as it was with your plans for the future. We have enough problems getting respected by drivers and cops without turning the ****ing roads into something out of Death Race. Use your head, stay out of potentially dangerous situations. Be aware of what''s around you at all times, and you won''t have to worry about something unexpected. Treat every other vehicle as if they were going to kill you. Do hypotheticals..."What would I do if that car pulled out. Where would I go if this car behind me doesn''t stop for the red when I do." I do them for the duration of every ride...still riding. Got caught once by the unexpected, after two surgeries I now do hypotheticals about deer as well.
"If u wanna ****ing rant on someone and judge somewhere just by how they asked a question do it elsewhere." I wouldn''t judge people just by how they asked a question, since I don''t know the details of your life. Maybe you''ve got a learning disability, hell, I know that almost 100 million Americans are functionally illiterate. Can''t judge you for that. I''ll hope you''ll try to get better at spelling and grammar for the sake of your future, but I won''t judge you for it...however, your prospective employers will. Get better at it for the sake of your wallet, if for no other reason.
"Other then thnks for the responses keep em up." What, no thanks for me? And here I am just trying to help! I read the other posts too, they are telling you the same thing, just not quite as directly. I''ve never been very good at sugarcoating.
Please, be safe out there.
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RE: who is a vigalante? - 8/26/2008 6:31:42 AM
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voodoochyl
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This thread isn''t going to turn into a argument. The original topic lends itself nicely to romanticizing illegal activities, like the stupid "how fast can you go" threads, and that is also not going to happen. I almost moved this thread from the first moment I saw it. The only thing that stopped me, was that there are other threads similar to this one that have not been moved. Let''s keep it civil, everyone.
I, for one, think revenge is the wrong idea. You could get hurt/killed by the right wingnut (be careful who you piss off), you could get busted, you could get sued, you make us ALL look bad. Not my choice...
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