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cct question - 8/27/2008 5:36:32 PM

f4ez

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alright before u complain about a cct post i just wanna say i realy didnt fee\l like reading through 1000 post to try and find the answer si now for my question i jus noticed my bike doing this recently but i know my cct is junk because its doing its thing bout 5000 rpms but at a cold idle it almost sounds like my bike has a knock but its not to loud and it goes away after it gets warmed up atleast i think it does but im not sure because i forget to pay attention and i am not low on oil either...also it seems to have gotten more noticable since it first started doing it so is this a cct sympton?

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RE: cct question - 8/27/2008 7:40:54 PM

Xuracing

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To be honest. NO, CCTs are stiffer when cold. Its when its heated up and the oil becomes less viscous does it start to rattle. Usually ccts dont make noise until at high rpm when warmer. If it makes the noise at cold and not when warm i would start looking somewhere else.

Can anyone verify this?
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RE: cct question - 8/27/2008 8:10:48 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Xuracing

To be honest. NO, CCTs are stiffer when cold. Its when its heated up and the oil becomes less viscous does it start to rattle. Usually ccts dont make noise until at high rpm when warmer. If it makes the noise at cold and not when warm i would start looking somewhere else.

Can anyone verify this?
thanks

most definatly.....but lets get the terminology right, its the cctl, not the cct, they are two different parts.....when mine went bad i didnt notice anything wrong until the operating temp reached normal......then it made the awful noise.....

Switch it out to be on the safe side, its a two person job, really annoying, and very time consuming.......

There are good tutorials out there about how to switch it out.....I just did mine with the help of brveagle last weekend....if you have any questions, feel free to pm me or just ask them here....

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RE: cct question - 8/28/2008 7:12:57 AM

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I don''t understand your questions really or I would help.. you don"t really even have to do a search, just look at the bottom of this thread where it says related threads and start reading.

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RE: cct question - 8/28/2008 2:54:46 PM

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My''''n does the same thing when it is cold it rattles when it warms up it goes away is this not the cctl

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RE: cct question - 8/28/2008 4:55:04 PM

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it doesn''t matter is the bike cold or not....if your cctl is bad you will going to have the noise at about 5-5,5 rpms...and it will oing to do that because it''s loosened up, and you can''t do anything about it, just to change the m*****f***...all the f4i''s have this problem sooner or later...

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RE: cct question - 8/28/2008 5:18:59 PM

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Cold rattle is the motor being loose and having larger tolerances in the valvetrain and piston/cylinders. Heat causes exspansion, everything tightens up and no more rattle. This is why your supposed to warm up before going.

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RE: cct question - 8/28/2008 6:32:56 PM

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ok well based on what u all have said im ruling out the cctl so any ideas on wha it might be? its not a rattle its a knock of some sort i dunno maybe ill try and take a vid and post it up

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RE: cct question - 8/28/2008 10:24:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: f4ez

ok well based on what u all have said im ruling out the cctl so any ideas on wha it might be? its not a rattle its a knock of some sort i dunno maybe ill try and take a vid and post it up

if its a knocking, thats a different sound.....the cctl sounds like a can of bb''s under your seat at 5-6000 rpms......if your bike is a higher mileage machine over 12000 or so, it may be time for a valve adjust.......

Shouldn''t need one before 20000 though, honda makes kickass engines that seem to hold well.

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RE: cct question - 8/29/2008 6:58:01 PM

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I would check your valves, it''s not that hard to do yourself. As everyone has said, the CCTL is an annoying rattle at certain rpm''s, mine was 3k and 5k.

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RE: cct question - 8/29/2008 10:02:58 PM

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Its hard to guess with out hearing it BUT!... The Part is like 50 bucks from the dealer...its two mounting screw''s and one to seal the cap...took longer to take my fairing off then to replace the part. allen wrench and and a 8mm wrench. valves is a lot of money the cctl is 50 bucks that was the logic i used

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RE: cct question - 9/12/2008 10:17:03 AM

DBEAU

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Oh honda... tisk tisk. you did so many things right with this bike but you SUCK at making a CCTL. I replaced my CCTL about 4K miles ago and the damn noise is back.