RE: New fairing design for all F3's
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RE: New fairing design for all F3's - 8/5/2006 3:23:47 AM
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Armstrong
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PRICES
The price for the new lexan assemblies with the bulb conversion is: $150.00 for a set of two light assemblies with all the bulb conversion work done and ready to install on your bike. The assemblies can be ordered with the original bulbs for a lowered cost of $95.00. The assemblies are priced as follows.
1. Light Assemblies w/ Xenon Bulbs: $150.00 + $11.50 tax
2. Custom Carbon Fiber Mounting Brackets perfect for installation on any bike fairing (suggested): $30.00 + $2.35 tax
3. New Design Mellinium Carbon Ram Air Assembly: $225.00 + $19.25 tax (not available until 9/15/2006)
THESE PRICES DO NOT INCLUDE SHIPPING TO YOUR LOCATION
Detailed digital and hard copy instructions are included.
Every order will include headlight cut-out patterns for your fairings.
I can aslo custom trim the chrome surounds to your specifications.
You are required to complete all final fit and assembly.
You can order these individually for whatever application your are needing them for.
Or you can buy the folllowing F3 package and save some money.
1. The Complete CBR F3 Package: Headlight assemblies attached to New Ram Air assembly on center mounts and attached with Carbon Fairing monts on the outer mounting tabs. This is a stronger mount for the F3's. Comes with everthing you need to complete this conversion on your CBR F3.
$365.00 + $27.66 tax vs. non discount price of $405.00 + $30.96 tax
2. Race Team / Ram Air Packages: Ram air assemblies offered at discount prices for bulk orders.
Please submit all orders by PM messages or e-mail me: Armstrongfinearts@yahoo.com
Thank you for all your interest and please let me know your thoughts on the project.
Mark Armstrong
Owner and Operator
Armstrong Advantage Racing
< Message edited by Armstrong -- 8/5/2006 4:27:29 PM >
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RE: New fairing design for all F3's - 8/5/2006 4:54:52 PM
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Armstrong
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Ha Ha Ha! Somone please send me $20,000 dollars PayPal to buy the mold presses for pieces that large and complex. I would love to do it believe me that is my dream. But raw carbon is insanely expensive now and I do not have the overhead to produce parts like that. I hope to build my business to that level by selling these types of custom and race parts that I can afford to design and produce. With this project alone there is already over $2000 invested, and the carbon parts are small but complex. Once the Ram Air assembly is complete the turn around on the carbon will make it easier to expand my business. There (is) an inexpensive way to produce them though but I would not produce it to sell to you, too much labor involed. The process is called vacum molding, and it involves draping wet carbon over your part and then placing it into a large plastic bag. You attach a shop vac to the bag and let it pull all the air from the bag, this makes the carbon mold perfectly to the part you are producing. You use a fast acting resin and after about and hour your carbon part is dry enough to be pulled and trimmed from the original part. Lots of labor trimming, custom mounting, and finishing the surface of these parts and they are aslo a mold of the outside of the part not an exact carbon replica of the original. You can find online tutorials on how to do this and it will cost you roughly a grand to produce your whole bike, which is much less than other companies charge for a full set up. I produce perfect reproductions with the use of compression molds. To answer your question, properly done, huge amounts of time, and huge amounts of money.
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RE: New fairing design for all F3's - 8/5/2006 7:07:55 PM
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TORNADO_EARTH
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did you ever heard about silicone form? will get about 150 piecess from one form (form will cost about 300$)
did you ever try?
no press needed for carbon fiber. only one single form.
also this piece not that large i think it easy to made.
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RE: New fairing design for all F3's - 8/6/2006 8:34:35 PM
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Armstrong
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The new assemblies with new xenon bulbs put out a great amount of light, much better than stock. They are single element bulbs so, one will light up with low beams and they both light up on high beams (like 600RR). I will post pics of the light shots on a dark wall as soon as I have completed install pics with the new assemblies. Not much cutting is involved with the new assemblies. Very simple cut using a dremel wheel. I will include cut out patterns that stick to your fairing like a sticker, so all you do is trace around them. You have to dremel the surround off the new bulbs enough so it slides into the bulb reciever snugly. Once I have everything finished on the assemblies I will post a tutorial on how to do this conversion for yourself. Yeah the new Ram Air design works much better with the new lights. Bad thing is I have to start from square one witht he new molds for this assembly. Lights will mount to the fairing using custom carbon tabs that will epoxy to the inside of your race fairng then the assemblies are bolted to these tabs, very solid. I also sell the specific epoxy used to bond these tabs to the fairing. But this is somthing easily found at Home Depot, or Lowes. I will post pics of what the tabs look like very soon. Let me know if you have any more questions.
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RE: New fairing design for all F3's - 8/6/2006 10:01:15 PM
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mec0t0
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I vote for the rounded corner one as well. The center hole seems pretty close to the edge of the headlights, will it be difficult to cut and trim that close?
You mentioned that the single filament 9006 bulbs are for low beams, how do you get high beams on both sides? Is it possible to use 9004 or 9007 dual filament bulbs? I am hoping to get low beams on both sides.
I have an F2, any ideas on how to deal with the ram air cutout? Thanks.
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RE: New fairing design for all F3's - 8/7/2006 12:52:27 AM
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Armstrong
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I have not completed the design yet, but no its not hard to get that close to the light assemblies they will acctually mount to the ram air duct itself on the inside mounts. For the F2 you would simply not have the ram air cut out. You would only install the lights due to the lack of a ram air system on that bike . You would use the custom tabs to attach the inside assembly mounts in replacement of the ram air duct mounts. The bulbs are both the same high power xenon bulbs. You could set the system up to have high and low on both sides with the bulbs you mentioned. I designed the kit to install simply with the CBR's standard wiring so it would be easy for everyone. You would have to run a seperate 12v lead to power the highs and do some work with the H/L switch in order to make it function properly or run the highs on a seperate switch. You could then run into the problem of it drawing to much power from the other standard sytems on the bike yada, yada, yada. It could be done though, anything is possible.
< Message edited by Armstrong -- 8/9/2006 7:31:32 PM >
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